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Why is it no possible to send custom emoticons (from some custom emoticon pack for example) with Adium to Windows Live Messenger 8 user for example. When I try that I only see the emoticon text on my pc. I can send custom emos from my Live Messenger to Adium though and they show up in Adium just fine. I really luv Adium but this is so big thing to me that I'm forced to change my IM app to something else. I also would love to see the ability to easily add custom emoticons from file to Adium without needing to create a pack first!

The sending of custom emoticons is not supported (yet) by Adium. This is not the fault of the Adium developers but rather those who develop libgaim which Adium implements for MSN conversations.

(correct me if I'm wrong about this, I'm not a user of MSN so I don't keep up)

rauskiss wrote:Why is it no possible to send custom emoticons (from some custom emoticon pack for example) with Adium to Windows Live Messenger 8 user for example. When I try that I only see the emoticon text on my pc. I can send custom emos from my Live Messenger to Adium though and they show up in Adium just fine. I really luv Adium but this is so big thing to me that I'm forced to change my IM app to something else. I also would love to see the ability to easily add custom emoticons from file to Adium without needing to create a pack first!

As far as I know, no program actually sends emoticons over the internet; they just send the text version. The program on the other side translates the text to a picture. So all an emoticon pack is, is a set of pictures and which text smileys link to those pictures.

Adium recognizes all the standard MSN emoticons because it has an identical emoticon pack, but you can't guarantee that someone else will see the same set of pictures you see. Does that make any sense?

MSN (not Adium, but current Windows clients and aMSN and others) sends the actual graphic, allowing users to specify their own graphics to be displayed on the other side.

aptenergy wrote:As far as I know, no program actually sends emoticons over the internet; they just send the text version. The program on the other side translates the text to a picture. So all an emoticon pack is, is a set of pictures and which text smileys link to those pictures.

Adium recognizes all the standard MSN emoticons because it has an identical emoticon pack, but you can't guarantee that someone else will see the same set of pictures you see. Does that make any sense?

Actually this is only partially correct. MSN's latest protocol updates (found in Live Messenger 8 and its recent brethren) support sending custom emoticons such that the actual file [graphic] is sent.

bgannin wrote:

aptenergy wrote:As far as I know, no program actually sends emoticons over the internet; they just send the text version. The program on the other side translates the text to a picture. So all an emoticon pack is, is a set of pictures and which text smileys link to those pictures.

Adium recognizes all the standard MSN emoticons because it has an identical emoticon pack, but you can't guarantee that someone else will see the same set of pictures you see. Does that make any sense?

Actually this is only partially correct. MSN's latest protocol updates (found in Live Messenger 8 and its recent brethren) support sending custom emoticons such that the actual file [graphic] is sent.

oOoOoO... my bad. hence why i put the "as far as i know" bit... haha

works both ways for me with the latest adium beta and the latest msn (other person I am chatting with)

Fruzion wrote:works both ways for me with the latest adium beta and the latest msn (other person I am chatting with)

both ways? how's that?