Wireless Contacts

marko_tomas13 · Post by **marko_tomas13** » Wed May 09, 2007 9:25 pm

Hey everyone,

It is my first time posting here but I primarily use the MSN protocol with Adium.

After one of the latest version updates, I now notice there is not icon for wireless contacts (mobile contacts in other words) and rather they just appear online. If I send them a message it goes to their cell phone with me thinking they are just actually onlin eand not in mobile status.

I looked for a setting but found nothing, is there a custom emoticon pack that would give me this functionality or anything I can do?

Post by **evands** » Wed May 09, 2007 11:29 pm

What version of Adium are you using?

marko_tomas13 · Post by **marko_tomas13** » Thu May 10, 2007 1:25 am

I'm using 1.0.3 but it has been like this for the last 2 version updates I believe.

Post by **evands** » Thu May 10, 2007 6:48 am

This should have been fixed in 1.0.3. $:\$

Post by **zac** » Thu May 10, 2007 7:42 am

Sorry to report it's not working for me either evan, on trunk [19654].

On trunk [19385] (heh, old) on my laptop it works as it should.

This is over AIM.

Post by **evands** » Thu May 10, 2007 7:52 am

AIM wireless contacts are wholly unrelated. What problem are you seeing, Zac?

Post by **zac** » Thu May 10, 2007 7:55 am

evands wrote:AIM wireless contacts are wholly unrelated. What problem are you seeing, Zac?

Well, it sounds like what this guy's reporting - mobile contacts are being treated as online, away or idle (not mobile).

Post by **evands** » Thu May 10, 2007 8:12 am

What kind of "mobile AIM" are they? Mobile devices? Or registered with a cell phone on AIM? Or something else?

Post by **zac** » Thu May 10, 2007 8:18 am

evands wrote:What kind of "mobile AIM" are they? Mobile devices? Or registered with a cell phone on AIM? Or something else?

This particular user is using a Sidekick to log into AIM, so it's a mobile device.

Post by **evands** » Thu May 10, 2007 8:23 am

I think that libpurple made a deliberate move to not calling sidekicks mobile. That's equivalent to "hiptop for AIM," right?

Post by **zac** » Thu May 10, 2007 8:25 am

evands wrote:I think that libpurple made a deliberate move to not calling sidekicks mobile. That's equivalent to "hiptop for AIM," right?

that's a very odd change. I wonder why they decided to go that route. I still think it's similar to somebody logging in on their cell phone - no guarantee of a reply.

Post by **evands** » Thu May 10, 2007 9:32 am

I've never seen one of these devices or interacted with someone on it.. the changelog was basically, "my understanding is that people on these devices don't use them as 'mobile' the way we understand it". Maybe you could email devel@pidgin.im with a question about it and your argument as to why it's a mobile device?

marko_tomas13 · Post by **marko_tomas13** » Sun May 13, 2007 10:39 pm

For when it happens on MSN, these people aren't on a mobile messaging device like a smartphone or a PDA at all.

They just submitted their mobile number and it shows them online. When I send a message it somehow sends them a text message though which I found weird, they aren't actually logged in to mobile messenger on their phones...

lukeandrews · Post by **lukeandrews** » Fri May 18, 2007 1:22 pm

My colleagues both have Hiptops. They are definitely mobile devices... it's true that you can have a more normal conversation on them, but the interaction is still a lot more ephemeral, and the fact that with a hiptop you are "always online" is different from being online with a computer in front of you.

I guess it's a question of semantics, but I'm annoyed by this change. I have my colleague's hiptops and their regular AIM accounts in a meta-contact, and now I can't tell whether they're *really* online or just with their phone.

Post by **evands** » Fri May 18, 2007 4:40 pm

Apparently there is still a way to distinguish hiptops from other contacts in the code; it's just no longer the 'mobile' designation, so Adium isn't hooked into it.

This will get fixed, though I can't promise when. A patch to fix it would be welcome.

rotocamel · Post by **rotocamel** » Wed May 23, 2007 12:26 am

Many of my colleagues also use hiptops, and they are definitely not "connected" all the time. Moreover, hiptop users move back and forth between computers and their hiptops just like mobile users do. It is difficult to send them files when they are on their hiptop. I think changing back to classifying them as mobile would be preferable.

johno89 · Post by **johno89** » Fri May 25, 2007 12:53 am

I noticed this problem started occurring after I believe one of the updates. I could no longer distinguish the difference between the mobile users and those using a computer. This is a big deal to me (don't ask why) and don't understand what happened, lol. Can this problem be fixed?

Adium is a great piece of software by the way, but that's just my only minor complain.