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Thank agian!

What's the reason not Adium team is not including MSNP15 to the final?

markes wrote:Thank agian!

What's the reason not Adium team is not including MSNP15 to the final?

It's too late and if they switched back to libpurple they would need more betas which would delay 1.3 too much.

sorry for what's probably a trivial question, but how to I update my personal message and view other peoples PMs in the contact list?

digsbee wrote:sorry for what's probably a trivial question, but how to I update my personal message and view other peoples PMs in the contact list?

You have to click the arrow under your nick and select Custom... and then write your messages there. To see other contact's PMs you can hover your mouse pointer over them in the contact list or if you wanna see them all the time you should go to Preferences->Appearance->List Layout->Customize and select show status message.

Dimmuxx wrote:

markes wrote:Thank agian!

What's the reason not Adium team is not including MSNP15 to the final?

It's too late and if they switched back to libpurple they would need more betas which would delay 1.3 too much.

That sucks. I was hoping for 1.3 to now include msnp15 and even add custom emoticon support to bring it up and over par with the official client.

Who cares if 1.3 takes longer, we need proper MSN support. It's been a long time coming.


Thanks for all the work you've done so far Dimmuxx.

Hopefully the dev team will change their mind.

Binarymix wrote:That sucks. I was hoping for 1.3 to now include msnp15 and even add custom emoticon support to bring it up and over par with the official client.

Those were too high hopes. Adding custom emoticons to 1.3 was never planned.

Binarymix wrote:Who cares if 1.3 takes longer, we need proper MSN support. It's been a long time coming.

The devs care, they have been working on 1.3 for a long time and they think it is time to release it to the masses. MSN-pecan is a great improvement in comparison to current MSN support.

Binarymix wrote:Thanks for all the work you've done so far Dimmuxx.

Hopefully the dev team will change their mind.

Actually, I could imagine that MSNP15 could be added without to much hiccups (you never know though!) but I don't think the dev team will change its mind. However, it seems very likely that MSNP15 will be in Adium 1.4 at the latest. Dimmuxx has done some excellent work, that's beyond all question!

FOR THE LASTEST 2~3 BUILD , ADIUMX ALWAYS QUIT UNEXPECTED ON ALL OF MY MAC ( TWO IMAC AND ONE MACBOOK PRO)

I SAVE TO THE LOG , BUT I DONT KNOW WHICH OF CODE SHOULD I PASTE.

SORRY FOR YOUR INCONVENIENCE

GORDON HO

008325 wrote:FOR THE LASTEST 2~3 BUILD , ADIUMX ALWAYS QUIT UNEXPECTED ON ALL OF MY MAC ( TWO IMAC AND ONE MACBOOK PRO)

I SAVE TO THE LOG , BUT I DONT KNOW WHICH OF CODE SHOULD I PASTE.

SORRY FOR YOUR INCONVENIENCE

GORDON HO

Are you using the skype plugin? That causes adium to crash.

Dimmuxx wrote:

008325 wrote:FOR THE LASTEST 2~3 BUILD , ADIUMX ALWAYS QUIT UNEXPECTED ON ALL OF MY MAC ( TWO IMAC AND ONE MACBOOK PRO)

I SAVE TO THE LOG , BUT I DONT KNOW WHICH OF CODE SHOULD I PASTE.

SORRY FOR YOUR INCONVENIENCE

GORDON HO

Are you using the skype plugin? That causes adium to crash.

no , i haven't use any plugin , any script.

really thanks for you attention

008325 wrote:no , i haven't use any plugin , any script.

really thanks for you attention

Okay, it's probably the end of the log that's important then. You should edit out email addressees and so on before posting anything though.

Does the official 1.3b7 work for you?

Do have a statistics about services usage percentage somewhere?
Please understand that whole Europe uses MSN

markes wrote:Do have a statistics about services usage percentage somewhere?

Sparkle+ Information

markes wrote:Please understand that whole Europe uses MSN

At whom is this directed and how is it to be understood?

markes wrote:Please understand that whole Europe uses MSN

Well, some regions use other im protocols more prevalently. My understanding is that Germany is mostly icq, while Poland is Gadu-Gadu. However, maybe you collect statistics for a big company and can prove this to be wrong.

008325 wrote:FOR THE LASTEST 2~3 BUILD , ADIUMX ALWAYS QUIT UNEXPECTED ON ALL OF MY MAC ( TWO IMAC AND ONE MACBOOK PRO)

I SAVE TO THE LOG , BUT I DONT KNOW WHICH OF CODE SHOULD I PASTE.

SORRY FOR YOUR INCONVENIENCE

GORDON HO

I have the same problem. But I have many crashes with the last offical beta too.

The_Tick wrote:

markes wrote:Please understand that whole Europe uses MSN

Well, some regions use other im protocols more prevalently. My understanding is that Germany is mostly icq, while Poland is Gadu-Gadu.

That's right Italian mostly use MSN and its annoying colored nick ( without MSN plus you can only see the code ) and, first of all, comment status and invisible status.
MSN Pecan don't support off-line message: that's why I think it's better switch to MSNP15 instead of MSN-Pecan.

Dimmuxx wrote:

markes wrote:Thank agian!

What's the reason not Adium team is not including MSNP15 to the final?

It's too late and if they switched back to libpurple they would need more betas which would delay 1.3 too much.

That's right but there is your wonderful work! Your last build works perfectly! It seems an official one...

skyworker wrote:

The_Tick wrote:

markes wrote:Please understand that whole Europe uses MSN

Well, some regions use other im protocols more prevalently. My understanding is that Germany is mostly icq, while Poland is Gadu-Gadu.

That's right Italian mostly use MSN and its annoying colored nick ( without MSN plus you can only see the code ) and, first of all, comment status and invisible status.
MSN Pecan don't support off-line message: that's why I think it's better switch to MSNP15 instead of MSN-Pecan.

msn-pecan means a more immediate release. msnp15 means waiting another month at least for just testing. The Project Manager and Lead Dev decided that the best option was to go with the more immediate solution in the short term, and evaluate which library is better in the long term.

So, do I have to turn updates off for this to work properly?

What's the advantage of 15 over 12 (Pecan)? I currently run 1.3b7.

Raymie wrote:So, do I have to turn updates off for this to work properly?

What's the advantage of 15 over 12 (Pecan)? I currently run 1.3b7.

Nah don't just update it when it tells you that new version is out.

Offline messages is probably the biggest advantage and also that the msn servers seems to prioritize clients which run the latest protocol.

Dimmuxx wrote:

008325 wrote:no , i haven't use any plugin , any script.

really thanks for you attention

Okay, it's probably the end of the log that's important then. You should edit out email addressees and so on before posting anything though.

Does the official 1.3b7 work for you?

NO, it seem that it don't stable anymore since 1.3B7 , 1.3B6 is quite stable

The_Tick wrote:

markes wrote:Please understand that whole Europe uses MSN

Well, some regions use other im protocols more prevalently. My understanding is that Germany is mostly icq, while Poland is Gadu-Gadu. However, maybe you collect statistics for a big company and can prove this to be wrong.

France only use MSN.
As you can see in sparkle stats MSN is not far behind AIM for the first place. I must say i would prefer otherwise but i'm force to use it because of my friends (No i won't change friends ) And i think MSN-Pecan is too far behind for a genuine experience of MSN.

But i agree that what the devs says must be accepted and i only hope that "we" will be more considered in the future.