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Re: ICQ connection problems for Russian/Ukrainian users

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:30 pm
by Rishatovich
bustard AOL!
I have this same message from user "1" it's look like:
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System Message
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The version you are using is not supported by ICQ. Download a free authorized ICQ version from ICQ's official website.

It's only problem russian IP owners?


Заебали че за херня, пидарюги из АОЛа ваще из-за квипа будут 2 раза в месяц ебать мозг сменой протокола ?
Мужики и девчатки кто решил как можно их наебать ?

Re: ICQ connection problems for Russian/Ukrainian users

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:58 pm
by Robby
Athirn wrote:Today this crap happened again — Adium gets messages by ICQ network from user 1 only. Guys, please, deal with this problem at last! I don't get it — is that so hard? Two or three beta versions had been released and there was no issue concerning the problem. The patched Adium version made by Newton also doesn't work anymore — we must use additional tools again (some sort of crap like Toolnet or TOR or some proxy) risking to lose our registration info at any moment. What should we do? How much time do you need to fix this problem and revive our ICQ connections without any extra stuff? Thanks a lot in advance!
You don't seriously expect anyone to answer such a rude post, do you?

Re: ICQ connection problems for Russian/Ukrainian users

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:00 pm
by Athirn
Увы, у них очень клевое лицензионное соглашение, которое запрещает использовать или разрабатывать сторонние клиенты. Так что или их говноаська, или — чешите, голодранцы, в другие сети. Я уже всерьез задумался над агитацией знакомых переходить в скайп.

Re: ICQ connection problems for Russian/Ukrainian users

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:04 pm
by karayuschij
Athirn wrote:Today this crap happened again — Adium gets messages by ICQ network from user 1 only. Guys, please, deal with this problem at last! I don't get it — is that so hard? Two or three beta versions had been released and there was no issue concerning the problem. The patched Adium version made by Newton also doesn't work anymore — we must use additional tools again (some sort of crap like Toolnet or TOR or some proxy) risking to lose our registration info at any moment. What should we do? How much time do you need to fix this problem and revive our ICQ connections without any extra stuff? Thanks a lot in advance!
Please try to be a little less agressive and more educated...
Remember that Adium is FREE and that Adium's developper are doing their best.
Nobody oblige you to use Adium. Go to Skype, I (and nobody) will surely miss you...

And I think that it is very impolite to write in russian on an american forum
What do you think if everybody will write in the own language??
"Увы, у них очень клевое лицензионное соглашение, которое запрещает использовать или разрабатывать сторонние клиенты. Так что или их говноаська, или — чешите, голодранцы, в другие сети. Я уже всерьез задумался над агитацией знакомых переходить в скайп."

I try to translate:
Alas, they are very cool license agreement, which prohibits the use or develop the client side.
So what or chit - or scrub, ?????? in other networks. I have to seriously think about to move in Skype.

Re: ICQ connection problems for Russian/Ukrainian users

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:15 pm
by Athirn
Robby wrote:You don't seriously expect anyone to answer such a rude post, do you?
Is it rude indeed? Honestly saying I didn't notice any insult to you or anyone who takes part in Adium developing. But, on the other hand, it's easy to understand our dissapointment. For instance, russian QIP team reacts instantly and releases new builds very quickly. But we have to use AIM, iChat, Toolnet, TOR and any other possibility to keep our ICQ connection alive — without that crappy boring The One. I can't say that's cool, really.

Re: ICQ connection problems for Russian/Ukrainian users

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:26 pm
by Athirn
karayuschij wrote:Please try to be a little less agressive and more educated...
Remember that Adium is FREE and that Adium's developper are doing their best.
Nobody oblige you to use Adium. Go to Skype, I (and nobody) will surely miss you...

And I think that it is very impolite to write in russian on an american forum
What do you think if everybody will write in the own language??
I'm not interested in what you think, my dear. May I decide where to go by myself? I see the problem (very big problem), I see how this problem is fixed in other ICQ clients, and I see no movement in Adium — and silence. All my aggression was in the only word "crap" addressed to AOL and ICQ network. The rest of my post is despair and disappointment. Any questions?

UPD: Oh, about Russian in posts. Sorry, is this topic about problem of russian and ukrainian users? Do you suggest to say any emotional comments in English translating all that funny russian words? Any important comments are translated to English as you can see.

Re: ANYBODY WHO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH ADIUM!!!!!

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:43 pm
by Perlik
Works over toonel. Ура! :cool:

Re: ICQ connection problems for Russian/Ukrainian users

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:56 pm
by Athirn
Over Toonel The Duck did work two weeks ago too — that's not hot news. Actually I don't get it — why was Adium working all this time by itself, and today it suddenly reminded that Toonel is important stuff for ICQ messaging? :) Strange and funny…

Re: ICQ connection problems for Russian/Ukrainian users

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:13 pm
by Robby
Athirn wrote:I'm not interested in what you think, my dear. May I decide where to go by myself?
You'd better cool down a little or you will have to find another forum to spread your hate. We will not allow you speak in that condescending tone to other users.
Athirn wrote:I see the problem (very big problem), I see how this problem is fixed in other ICQ clients, and I see no movement in Adium — and silence.
If you had bothered to read what I wrote the last time we had this problem you'd be aware of the fact that this problem cannot be fixed by Adium developers.

Adium was working because AOL had reverted their server change. However, it seems that change has been reinstated today. So why not take your complaints to them?

And if you think the fix is easy to do,
Athirn wrote:[...]I don't get it — is that so hard?[...]
(this part of your post I consider rude and arrogant)
then why not provide it yourself? I'm sure the guys at Pidgin would welcome a patch from you.

Re: ICQ connection problems for Russian/Ukrainian users

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:57 pm
by NicomUA
Нашел быстрое решение с откорректированной версией Adium для СНГ. смотрите тут http://nicomua.exocenter.net/page/adium ... taet_s_icq.

fast fix of this problem for Russian/Ukrainian users. See there http://nicomua.exocenter.net/page/adium ... taet_s_icq.(in Russain) . sorry for english.

Re: ICQ connection problems for Russian/Ukrainian users

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:04 pm
by Robby
NicomUA wrote:[...]lorry for english.
No worries, at least you try and you're doing ok. :)

Re: ICQ connection problems for Russian/Ukrainian users

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:55 pm
by Athirn
Listen, Robby, there was no hate at all, okay? I was too emotional, that's true, but I wasn't going to blame anyone at Adium team. Sorry for that question — I didn't mention you're incompetent or not professional enough to do your work. I know that you're great, or I'd never run Adium on my Mac. I'm just tired to find my own foolish user solutions to make ICQ work fine — there should be great developer solution, which everybody in Russia and Ukraine is waiting all this time. I understand that questions have to be clear and calm. That won't be a problem anymore. Sorry and thanks for your answer.

P.S. My English is not good enough too. So, I'll try to say in other words anything that could seem arrogate in this post. Once again there was no hate to Adium team in my first post. Peace.

Re: ICQ connection problems for Russian/Ukrainian users

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:00 pm
by Robby
Okay then. :)
Let's hope this issue gets resolved, be it by AOL or by the Pidgin guys. ;)

Re: ICQ connection problems for Russian/Ukrainian users

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:53 pm
by lexushka
and so

i see our trouble with icq connections in russia again

few icq-clone makers update his icq-protocol
AFAIK exist solution for pidgin- (or what's it name?) library for Adium
but in adium new library with corrected icq-protocol still not used?

please made new adium version, what can work in russia

A propos
Proteus 4,2,1 don't work too :((

Re: ICQ connection problems for Russian/Ukrainian users

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:40 am
by Robby
lexushka wrote:and so

i see our trouble with icq connections in russia again

few icq-clone makers update his icq-protocol
AFAIK exist solution for pidgin- (or what's it name?) library for Adium
but in adium new library with corrected icq-protocol still not used?

please made new adium version, what can work in russia
As I've stated before, we will incorporate any fix going into libpurple from the Pidgin developers. So far, they haven't applied any of the patches attached to their ticket.
lexushka wrote:A propos
Proteus 4,2,1 don't work too :((
Proteus' implementation of libpurple is ancient and I doubt it will be updated anytime soon.

Re: ICQ connection problems for Russian/Ukrainian users

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:06 am
by QBcle

Re: ICQ connection problems for Russian/Ukrainian users

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:53 am
by drummah
same problem here again...

Re: ICQ connection problems for Russian/Ukrainian users

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:26 am
by alienatf
Developers!

Thing that AOL doing now with russia and ukraine it's just a test, and when it will done - be prepared, because they will do it with every unofficial client in any country.

I think Aduim developers should make a fix to prevent that shit in future.
/// IN RUSSIAN
Крепчайте русские! Мы таторомонгольное иго пережили, две мировых войны выиграли....АОЛ завалим как нех нах :)

Re: ICQ connection problems for Russian/Ukrainian users

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:38 am
by alienatf
QBcle wrote:http://nicomua.exocenter.net/page/adium ... taet_s_icq

It works! Thanks a lot=)
А ты не думаешь что он там добавил грабику паролей? :)

Re: ICQ connection problems for Russian/Ukrainian users

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:47 am
by Athirn
alienatf wrote:Developers!

Thing that AOL doing now with russia and ukraine it's just a test, and when it will done - be prepared, because they will do it with every unofficial client in any country.

I think Aduim developers should make a fix to prevent that shit in future.
/// IN RUSSIAN
Крепчайте русские! Мы таторомонгольное иго пережили, две мировых войны выиграли....АОЛ завалим как нех нах :)
You should read what had been said before. Such a call should be posted on Pidgin forum, not here, because Adium makers don't develop ICQ library. Toonel can solve this problem until patch is released.

Чувак, прочти, все что было сказано до тебя — разработчики Адиума только используют соответствующие библиотеки, а баги в них отлавливает команда Пиджина, на основе которой Утка и построена. Ото абы лозунг толкнуть, блин. Юзай Toonel пока.