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I believe that I read that your program uses Pidgin / Libpurple, and looking at their website, they state that Voice and Video support should be ready in about 7 days (83% complete). *If* it is finished in 7 days, and officially supported a short time later, will Adium have A/V right away, or will we have to wait until your milestone, Adium 2.0?

The link is: http://developer.pidgin.im/milestone/Vo ... %20Support

Thanks

JML wrote:I believe that I read that your program uses Pidgin / Libpurple,

Correct (libpurple).

JML wrote:and looking at their website, they state that Voice and Video support should be ready in about 7 days (83% complete).

These dates they put on their milestone have to be taken with a grain of salt. They are making good progress but a release is still a bit off. 2.6.0 will be released first – without V/V.

JML wrote:*If* it is finished in 7 days, and officially supported a short time later, will Adium have A/V right away, or will we have to wait until your milestone, Adium 2.0?

The link is: http://developer.pidgin.im/milestone/Vo ... %20Support

1. Again, you can't take this milestone information a 100 percent seriously. The Adium 1.4 milestone is pretty correct but not 1.5, 2.0 etc.
2. Once the libpurple library has steady V/V support, work could possibly start on Adium to hook up the possibilities libpurple would offer. A user interface would have to be coded. To my knowledge, little – if at all – has been done in that direction.

JML wrote:Thanks

You're welcome. I hope this gives you a better idea.

I hope this gives you a better idea.

An amazing program, with an amazing look, with tons of customization, AND great customer service... speechless.... However, just so you know, if you ever want to be a big business, you must provide a buggy software (it helps to charge money and then charge more money to upgrade it to a less buggy version), provide customer service when you feel like it, normally wait 3-5 business days to respond... and be vague or no help, and keep your users in a bent over position. Oh, and make sure that you act like you don't really need them, but be polite about it. Automated messages work well for that, such as "we appreciate you" and under that "do not reply, this is a automated e-mail".

Sorry, I use to use a PC until recently, so I am trying to wrap my head around this new experience called "quality"!

Thanks for the indepth reply! Can't wait until V/V gets integrated (but understand that it will take time).

Thank you again

JML wrote:

I hope this gives you a better idea.

However, just so you know, if you ever want to be a big business, you must provide a buggy software (it helps to charge money and then charge more money to upgrade it to a less buggy version), provide customer service when you feel like it, normally wait 3-5 business days to respond... and be vague or no help, and keep your users in a bent over position. Oh, and make sure that you act like you don't really need them, but be polite about it. Automated messages work well for that, such as "we appreciate you" and under that "do not reply, this is a automated e-mail".

Adium is an open source program, not a commercial one striving to generate an income and be a big company..

Regarding VV in Adium, I believe some UI has been done in the VV branch. But how much of that is usable now.. Well..

And regarding the Pidgin milestone for VV; If you read through the tickets you'll see that they are all minor bugs, except the main bug ticket for VV. So 83% doesn't tell you anything at all.

David Munch wrote: Adium is an open source program, not a commercial one striving to generate an income and be a big company..

Regarding VV in Adium, I believe some UI has been done in the VV branch. But how much of that is usable now.. Well..

And regarding the Pidgin milestone for VV; If you read through the tickets you'll see that they are all minor bugs, except the main bug ticket for VV. So 83% doesn't tell you anything at all.

Haha, I know its open source, I was just poking fun at how different the two operate. Honestly though, of all of the open source software I use/used, Adium and Firefox are by far the best (and I know that they are not related organizations, and that the for-profit subsidiary, Mozilla Corp appears to be becoming a big business... $75 million in revenue!!!). The only main thing I would like to see in Adium is webcam support.

I didn't read through all the tickets, and even if I did, I doubt I would understand the technical stuff. Thanks though for clearing that up... I guess I hoped that 83% was an absolute term But at least I know its coming one day

thanks!

Ah, I was thinking if this was a joke or not, and just wanted to make sure..

Regarding the VV ticket on the pidgin roadmap; I would expect that we actually get some results out of that this time, in one way or the other. Theres been a few unsuccessful attempts before, but it looks like their heading somewhere.