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MSN and Bogus Offline Buddies

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:54 am
by thraxisp
This problem is similar to other problems that have been reported with MSN. I've not seen this specific problem reported, nor a solution.

My MSN account shows up as offline to some of my buddies (no real pattern for their accounts) even when I'm online. I see the same thing as well. Buddies that I know are online do not show up as online. If I quit and use Microsoft Messenger, the buddies show up properly. Is this a bug or just some stale data?

Update: Removing and recreating the account doesn't help. This has been happening with all of the betas since at least 1.4b9 (I was running the nightly builds before that with the same problem).

Re: MSN and Bogus Offline Buddies

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:55 am
by thraxisp
As a follow up, this looks like it was reported at http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/8331 and http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/10049 and http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/10379 , but this has been idle for months. Who do we poke to get some action?

Re: MSN and Bogus Offline Buddies

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:11 am
by Robby
Old
Completely unrelated, about ICQ.
Poke QuLogic

Re: MSN and Bogus Offline Buddies

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:06 pm
by thraxisp
Robby wrote:
Old
but still open and unresolved
Robby wrote:
Completely unrelated, about ICQ.
I think you misread this. It only talks about MSN
Robby wrote:
Poke QuLogic
In english please.

It looks like your upstream source is dying and no longer resolving bugs. Is it time to wind down your development or find a new MSN library.

What is the oldest version of Adium that works on Snow Leopard (10.6.2)? As it appears that older libraries work, but newer ones don't.

Re: MSN and Bogus Offline Buddies

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:48 pm
by Robby
Sorry, I mixed up the latter two tickets.
Completely unrelated, about ICQ.
Poke QuLogic
thraxisp wrote:In english please.
You asked me whom to poke. I said QuLogic was the guy to poke (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=QuLogic+Pidgin). What's the problem?
thraxisp wrote:It looks like your upstream source is dying and no longer resolving bugs. Is it time to wind down your development or find a new MSN library.
Looks like you need to fix your attitude (FSUES) towards volunteers who provide free software programmed in their free time. Also please bear in mind that I'm no developer myself, just some random helper guy you can bitch about.

Re: MSN and Bogus Offline Buddies

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:53 am
by thraxisp
Robby wrote:
thraxisp wrote:It looks like your upstream source is dying and no longer resolving bugs. Is it time to wind down your development or find a new MSN library?
Looks like you need to fix your attitude (FSUES) towards volunteers who provide free software programmed in their free time. Also please bear in mind that I'm no developer myself, just some random helper guy you can bitch about.
Not really. I'm a developer myself. Development teams need to make decisions and support features that they wrote in past. I realize that everyone wants to code video and holographic drivers, but you won't have any users if a key feature (chat using MSN) isn't working. I would have thought that there would be at least a few people that were interested in regressions (past functionality that is broken in the current release). I've posted a few times in other threads asking what information users can provide to help resolve this and similar problems without any response.

As far as code dependencies, like libpurple, you need to relay the information upstream, or provide code fixes. You should be reporting bugs and relaying the severity of the problem. I do this all of the time with other Linux and library bugs.