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Please read my message before attempting to kill me.

I'm in a jam. I've looked for a good open source client for the "popular" networks (AIM, ICQ, MSN, and Yahoo!) with no succsess. I use jabber among most of my friends, but some people are just too stupid to realise that MSN, or Yahoo!, or OSCAR isn't the only IM system out there. Trillian is somewhat ok, but it lacks too many features in the free mode (like Jabber/XMPP). From what I can tell, the only hard part(and it's a doozey) would be rewriteing the GUI, as most, if not all, of the system calls are supported by Cygwin. If only the origonal dev's would have used X11... oh well.

You may now respond. After that, you may get out the sticks and stones.

[EDIT: Pointing me to a Windows alternitive would be helpful, too]
[Another EDIT: Jabber transports always seem to fail for me]

This has been discussed a lot before, a simple forum search would turn somethind up

As far as windows alternatives, Try Miranda. I don't have a link to it, but people say you can make it look exactly like Adium with a few plugins.

I DID a fourm search
whatever
I'l try miranda.

in other news, gaim crashes on my crapy 98/se pentium 2 with the error

GAIM caused an invalid page fault in
module LIBGTK-WIN32-2.0-0.DLL at 0167:00fed3ae.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=0167 EIP=00fed3ae EFLGS=00210202
EBX=008e5a40 SS=016f ESP=0074bc60 EBP=0074bc88
ECX=c15db6e0 DS=016f ESI=008e5a90 FS=3ab7
EDX=bffc9490 ES=016f EDI=00000000 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
83 38 00 74 0a 47 8b 4d ec 83 3c b9 00 75 f6 8d
Stack dump:
0118e065 008e51b0 c15db6e0 0074bc88 bff92c68 00000000 008e5a50 00e180e8 008e5a90 008e51b0 0074bce8 00e0b6f3 008e5a40 008e5960 00000000 bff7b796

like you care.

KinkoBlast wrote:like you care.

nope, sorry:)

KinkoBlast wrote:I DID a fourm search
whatever
I'l try miranda.

in other news, gaim crashes on my crapy 98/se pentium 2 with the error

GAIM caused an invalid page fault in
module LIBGTK-WIN32-2.0-0.DLL at 0167:00fed3ae.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=0167 EIP=00fed3ae EFLGS=00210202
EBX=008e5a40 SS=016f ESP=0074bc60 EBP=0074bc88
ECX=c15db6e0 DS=016f ESI=008e5a90 FS=3ab7
EDX=bffc9490 ES=016f EDI=00000000 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
83 38 00 74 0a 47 8b 4d ec 83 3c b9 00 75 f6 8d
Stack dump:
0118e065 008e51b0 c15db6e0 0074bc88 bff92c68 00000000 008e5a50 00e180e8 008e5a90 008e51b0 0074bce8 00e0b6f3 008e5a40 008e5960 00000000 bff7b796

like you care.

I care

KinkoBlast wrote:Please read my message before attempting to kill me.

I'm in a jam. I've looked for a good open source client for the "popular" networks (AIM, ICQ, MSN, and Yahoo!) with no succsess. I use jabber among most of my friends, but some people are just too stupid to realise that MSN, or Yahoo!, or OSCAR isn't the only IM system out there. Trillian is somewhat ok, but it lacks too many features in the free mode (like Jabber/XMPP). From what I can tell, the only hard part(and it's a doozey) would be rewriteing the GUI, as most, if not all, of the system calls are supported by Cygwin. If only the origonal dev's would have used X11... oh well.

You may now respond. After that, you may get out the sticks and stones.

[EDIT: Pointing me to a Windows alternitive would be helpful, too]
[Another EDIT: Jabber transports always seem to fail for me]

Why don't you get a Mac?

Reikon wrote:Why don't you get a Mac?

Wow, 5 posts to get to this. I would have put it at under 3.

From what I can tell, the only hard part (and it's a doozey) would be rewriteing the GUI

Heh.

It's fair to say it would have to be entirely rewritten.[/quote]

Well, gaim and Adium use the same code to connect to the services they connect to, and is, in my experience, the most Adium-like client on the Windows side. That said, it's by no means an exact match http://gaim.sf.net

To explain other peoples' answers, Adium cannot be ported to windows because the code that makes Adium Adium is completely not transferrable to the windows world. The programming language of Mac OS X (Cocoa) doesn't exist in the Windows world.

So I hope you do find an alternative, and I hope soon you get a mac and can truly experience Adium

KinkoBlast wrote:Please read my message before attempting to kill me.

Despite popular belief, most people here have no innate hatred for the Windows platform. As long as we don't have to use it, we really don't care about it one way or the other.

KinkoBlast wrote:I'm in a jam. I've looked for a good open source client for the "popular" networks (AIM, ICQ, MSN, and Yahoo!) with no succsess. I use jabber among most of my friends, but some people are just too stupid to realise that MSN, or Yahoo!, or OSCAR isn't the only IM system out there. Trillian is somewhat ok, but it lacks too many features in the free mode (like Jabber/XMPP). From what I can tell, the only hard part(and it's a doozey) would be rewriteing the GUI, as most, if not all, of the system calls are supported by Cygwin. If only the origonal dev's would have used X11... oh well.

Well, if the developers had used X11, they pretty much would have been rewriting gaim, and would have lost a lot of the nifty OS-specific features (the Quartz drawing engine, for one) that make Adium work so well. (Or, to phrase it differently and simplify radically: gaim is basically Adium implemented using X11) (Footnote 1)

That said, I'd try downgrading gaim on your system. The gaim Windows support page describes an error exactly like what you're seeing:

gaim homepage wrote:GTK 2.6.2 + Win98/ME = Wingaim crash - WinGaim builds starting with version 1.1.3 require GTK 2.6.x. There is currently an issue with GTK 2.6.2 that renders it non-functional on Windows 98 and ME. Until this issue is resolved, we recommend that you continue to use Gaim 1.1.2 with GTK 2.4.14 on these systems.

My guess is that a downgrade will get you up and running with gaim in short order. If you absolutely must have the latest and greatest, consider taking the plunge and loading up a Linux distro. (I'm partial to Arch, but I wouldn't recommend it as a first Linux system.) With a lightweight window manager (read: not KDE or Gnome) you should be able to get quite respectable speed out of the system, and run the latest version of gaim without any issues. It's a drastic solution, but it'll work.

KinkoBlast wrote: You may now respond. After that, you may get out the sticks and stones.

No sticks and stones, simply a mild rolled-up newspaper on the subject of forum searches.

KinkoBlast wrote: I DID a fourm search
whatever

I assure you, the results are there if you use the forum search engine and look for "Windows" in "Adium General and Requests:"

http://forums.cocoaforge.com/viewtopic. ... ht=windows - long thread
http://forums.cocoaforge.com/viewtopic. ... ht=windows - short thread
http://forums.cocoaforge.com/viewtopic. ... ht=windows - short thread

(Footnote 1) To be precise, Adium is the protocol layer of gaim (aka libgaim) ported directly to OS X, with the interface layer rewritten in Aqua/Cocoa rather than X11/GTK2. But the sentence read better without that level of pedantry.

I have a fried who uses Trilian and really likes it. It has a lot of similar options as Adium does, except the customization of the aesthetics of the contact list and message window.

I wouldn't normally do this, but you are being really negative. I'm locking this thread.