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Jabber and Chat Room titles
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:29 pm
by eduardoj
Is there a way to "alias" Jabber chat rooms? The titles get quite long with the @xxx.yyy.zzz appended to each one, so I find it a bit cumbersome to keep more than one open in a tabbed IM window at a time.
Re: Jabber and Chat Room titles
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:53 pm
by zaudragon
eduardoj wrote:Is there a way to "alias" Jabber chat rooms? The titles get quite long with the @xxx.yyy.zzz appended to each one, so I find it a bit cumbersome to keep more than one open in a tabbed IM window at a time.
I don’t think so.
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:39 am
by Cantab
Definitely a highly-desirable feature for a future release.
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:44 am
by zaudragon
Cantab wrote:Definitely a highly-desirable feature for a future release.
I like that and all, but how would it work?
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:56 am
by Cantab
zaudragon wrote wrote:how would it work?
In the interface you mean? Store locations of previously-visited groups and display them in one of:
- a submenu to "Join Group Chat..."
- a dropdown in the Join Chat dialog
- an entry in the buddy list
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:18 pm
by zaudragon
Cantab wrote:- a submenu to "Join Group Chat..."
- a dropdown in the Join Chat dialog
- an entry in the buddy list
You still didn't explain the alias part. But...
1: One more pref: "How many recent group chats?"
2: Klunky!
3: ABSOLUTELY NOT! Or that's what I think. It's called a "Contact/Buddy List" for a reason; you don't see AIM or MSN group chats in your contact/buddy list, do you? Even Colloquy doesn't include channels in its buddy list.
The best for recently used: an autocomplete text field like the Address Bar in any browser.
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:47 pm
by Cantab
zaudragon wrote wrote:The best for recently used: an autocomplete text field like the Address Bar in any browser.
Sounds good to me.
You still didn't explain the alias part.
You're right. Probably because I misread the original post. So, getting back to that, here are two ways
- show the first x chars followed by an elipsis
- show all chars to the left of the @
I prefer (2). It feels more organic, and that word is under user control anyway so can be kept short. I would just take the risk on someone wanting to simultaneously join two groups with identical prefixes. It's worth the tradeoff IMHO.
Unless Jabber natively supports separately naming groups (i.e. in addition to their Jabber address) I don't think Adium should, because it would cause confusion in discussion with users on other clients.
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:12 am
by zaudragon
Number 2 is better, but this was to ALIAS the group chat name, not shorten it.
So "#adium%
irc.freenode.net@irc.jaim.at" will turn into "#adium%irc.freenode.net". Not very helpful; I want just "#adium".
And don't say "everything before the % or @" because some people might want "adium" and not "#adium".
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:59 am
by Cantab
OK, so you are opening this out now from just Jabber chatroom names to all long names? Sounds reasonable if other users also experience similar problems to us Jabberers.
Could you draw up per-service rules that would work OK for each service? It's obvious that you will never get this perfect, but it should be possible to significantly improve the user experience from where it is now without it becoming an inappropriately large project in itself.