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michael wrote:Cool, what other MSN advances will Gaim 2 bring do you know?

Doesn't look like much else at present; here's the Gaim ChangeLog so far. If the guy writing the MSNv11 patch finishes it, I think it would open the door to support for the other recent MSN advances (like the Personal Message thing), but I have no idea what the status of that is.

User base:

AIM: No figure for active users, but 195 million total registered user IDs (January 2003)
Gadu-Gadu: 3.6 million total (January 2005)
ICQ: 6 million active, 140 million total (June 2003)
Jabber: 4 million total. (October 2003)
MSN: 100 million active, 155 million total (April 2005)
Yahoo Messenger: 79 million active users. (May 2005)

The only one I wouldn't expect to be representative percentage-wise is Gadu-Gadu; I think Mac is underrepresented in Poland, though I don't have data to back that claim.

evands wrote:

michael wrote:

User base:

AIM: No figure for active users, but 195 million total registered user IDs (January 2003)
Gadu-Gadu: 3.6 million total (January 2005)
ICQ: 6 million active, 140 million total (June 2003)
Jabber: 4 million total. (October 2003)
MSN: 100 million active, 155 million total (April 2005)
Yahoo Messenger: 79 million active users. (May 2005)

Therefore, there are the most AIM/ICQ users. They merged, so you can talk ICQ -> AIM and AIM -> ICQ. So, you can’t just say AIM, otherwise you’re neglecting all the ICQ users in there.

You fools, napster is the most used!

The_Tick wrote:You fools, napster is the most used!

I totally forgot! Yeah, seems like it, as Napster was given a promotion in Adium to the highest-service-in-the-menu-of-doom!

Now use Jabber exclusively. I like that it's open source. I like the lack of advertising and I like the flexibility. I think it has tons of potential in education.

Cantab wrote:Now use Jabber exclusively. I like that it's open source. I like the lack of advertising and I like the flexibility. I think it has tons of potential in education.

Education? Why? All the students will just use AIM, Yahoo, or MSN because Jabber works with them anyway

I pretty much only use MSN cause that seems to be what everyone else I want to talk to uses. I have a Jabber account, but it's more of a political statement (go Open Source) than anything else.
It's a bit of a sad fact that MSN is mostly so popular because it's being driven by MS. Although it is becoming a fairly feature rich system, even if the official client does like to shove advertising down your throat.

zaudragon wrote:

Cantab wrote:Now use Jabber exclusively. I like that it's open source. I like the lack of advertising and I like the flexibility. I think it has tons of potential in education.

Education? Why? All the students will just use AIM, Yahoo, or MSN because Jabber works with them anyway

Because a school administrator can setup a jabber server and block all external chat servers.

The_Tick wrote:

zaudragon wrote:

Cantab wrote:Now use Jabber exclusively. I like that it's open source. I like the lack of advertising and I like the flexibility. I think it has tons of potential in education.

Education? Why? All the students will just use AIM, Yahoo, or MSN because Jabber works with them anyway

Because a school administrator can setup a jabber server and block all external chat servers.

Hehe, maybe... Someone should get a petition going and send it to their schol

A bunch of schools do exactly that (have an internal Jabber server). Duke's going to be recommending Adium as the Mac client for their Jabber network this coming year

evands wrote:A bunch of schools do exactly that (have an internal Jabber server). Duke's going to be recommending Adium as the Mac client for their Jabber network this coming year

Tight! Teh user base is growing...

Nice news, Evan.

BTW, I converted another person to Adium last week.

evands wrote:A bunch of schools do exactly that (have an internal Jabber server). Duke's going to be recommending Adium as the Mac client for their Jabber network this coming year

Cool! I didn't know that and that's where I'll be going

I use MSN only. In most places outside the U.S. people don't use AIM