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i haven't been successful finding a rename option for the groups. is there a way to rename a group completely. more than just putting some name in the alias of the group?

I believe that is currently the only solution other than opening the official client and changing it there.

create a new group, move all the contacts, delete the first one. a pretty ugly and risky workaround tho

Why can't we rename a group 'directly'?

IIRC it requires serverside calls (via gaim) that either:

a) aren't there, or
b) aren't hooked up/tested

bgannin wrote:b) aren't hooked up/tested

and
c) are scary

Okay; well, whenever we have a chance to implement it, then that'd be awesome

how about making adium secretly create a new group, move contacts, delete old group?

That'd be incredibly foolhardy... what happens if it fails in mid-move, what if you exceed any server limits, bandwidth drops, etc. Not to mention it would all be to workaround the actual way of doing it, which is never a solid idea.

bgannin wrote:That'd be incredibly foolhardy... what happens if it fails in mid-move, what if you exceed any server limits, bandwidth drops, etc. Not to mention it would all be to workaround the actual way of doing it, which is never a solid idea.

Which is why, since the Gaim implementation does exactly that, I consider it scary

The difference between the way Trillian handles this and Adium handles this, is that Trillian creates a 'local' group that only exists locally on the computer, while Adium's groups are actually created on the server? So, if I were to uninstall Adium and reinstall it, my contacts would be in their correct groups? Or, if I were to open the official clients, then they would be found in their correct groups?

Gary King wrote:...while Adium's groups are actually created on the server? So, if I were to uninstall Adium and reinstall it, my contacts would be in their correct groups? Or, if I were to open the official clients, then they would be found in their correct groups?

Yes and yes

Kepi wrote:

Gary King wrote:...while Adium's groups are actually created on the server? So, if I were to uninstall Adium and reinstall it, my contacts would be in their correct groups? Or, if I were to open the official clients, then they would be found in their correct groups?

Yes and yes

Which gives Adium some problems with groups, though, sometimes, because it then has to abide by the rules of the particular IM network. Most of the time, when I move a contact from one group to another, it doesn't move successfully. For instance, I restart Adium, and thet contact is back in its old group.

Local groups suck more though

The_Tick wrote:Local groups suck more though

Yeah, that's why I have to recreate all of my groups, etc. because I migrated from Trillian to Adium.

The_Tick wrote:Local groups suck more though

Not if they're smart, if you understand me 8)
Also, I guess Adium could create a local group, create a new server group, move the contacts, delete the original group and compare the new group with the local one. I also don't think it's worth it :-P