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I'm not trying to suggest anything in this thread, I just want to see what the devs (and the users) see in the future of Adium (really, really long term that is...).
if Adium makes it that far (which hopefully it will), do you see it (or want it to, or agree with it) merging with or replacing iChat as apples default messenger? Do you want it to be the "ultimate IM programme for any mac user anywhere"? do you have a different vision?

yelly wrote:I'm not trying to suggest anything in this thread, I just want to see what the devs (and the users) see in the future of Adium (really, really long term that is...).
if Adium makes it that far (which hopefully it will), do you see it (or want it to, or agree with it) merging with or replacing iChat as apples default messenger? Do you want it to be the "ultimate IM programme for any mac user anywhere"? do you have a different vision?

Have you checked the "why do people still use Proteus thread"?

Ethion wrote:

yelly wrote:I'm not trying to suggest anything in this thread, I just want to see what the devs (and the users) see in the future of Adium (really, really long term that is...).
if Adium makes it that far (which hopefully it will), do you see it (or want it to, or agree with it) merging with or replacing iChat as apples default messenger? Do you want it to be the "ultimate IM programme for any mac user anywhere"? do you have a different vision?

Have you checked the "why do people still use Proteus thread"?

yes, I have, and that is not what I want from this thread. This isn't a "What do you like / not like about adium? Where should we improve?" etc. kind of question, but a "where is this all going (in the long run)?" question.

The original and primary purpose of Adium is for the developers of Adium to have a nice IM client that does what they want. Since then, of course, the goals have expanded; we don't expect Apple to ever replace iChat with Adium, so we're just focusing on making the friendliest, best, most complete IM program on OSX, as well as building a community around it.

I see Adium as consisting of four parts:
"Adium" - the dock icon, menubar, and stuff accessed through those
"Messages" - the message window, tabs, etc...
"Contact List" - some way of viewing presence information, and possibly starting messages
"Connectivity" - the ability to connect to IM services

Connectivity, in my distant future vision, is pulled outside of adium entirely and opened up to any app that wants to use it. That's ChatKit.

The other three sections (in my opinion) should all be optional. Address Book, Mail, the Dashboard Contact List, and the Adium Contact List should all be equally valid ways of viewing presence information pulled from ChatKit. There are technical ways of accomplishing this, I think, but I haven't made a proof-of-concept, and my opinions here are mine not the team's. I intend to write a detailed explanation of my goals and thoughts about Adium's future once 1.0 is released.

Catfish_Man wrote:Connectivity, in my distant future vision, is pulled outside of adium entirely and opened up to any app that wants to use it. That's ChatKit.

And we hope that Fire and Proteus would use ChatKit in the future; that’s one of the reasons we started it up as well.