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Google Reader retired
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:55 pm
by fiyarburst
Google Reader is going to be
shut down in July. When this happens, what's going to happen to the feeds synced from my Google account?
Re: Google Reader retired
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:30 am
by ergh99
I started using Vienna today for this reason and synching with Reader and then unchecking the option left the feeds intact, presumably unsynched, but all the feed labels are prefixed with [G].
Not having a quick way to remove that prefix is pretty much the only complaint I have

Re: Google Reader retired
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:34 am
by David Munch
fiyarburst wrote:Google Reader is going to be
shut down in July. When this happens, what's going to happen to the feeds synced from my Google account?
Well, that is fantastic. So much work from the dev team for nothing.
Are there any good alternatives?
Re: Google Reader retired
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:51 am
by mic
ergh99 wrote:
Not having a quick way to remove that prefix is pretty much the only complaint I have

Hello.
- Quit Vienna
- Launch Terminal
- go to Vienna folder by typing: cd ~/Library/Application\ Support/Vienna
- =========MAKE A BACKUP OF messages.db=========: cp messages.db messages.backup
- launch the sqlite cli: sqlite messages.db (or sqlite3 messages.db)
- type: UPDATE folders SET foldername=substr(foldername,4) WHERE substr(foldername,1,3) = '[G]';
- type: .q
- Relaunch Vienna
This ==should== work. I don't use Google reader and so I don't have the data to test the commands.
Re: Google Reader retired
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:21 pm
by barijaona
David Munch wrote:
Are there any good alternatives?
Not as good, I am afraid… Google Reader had become an ecosystem, with a large choice of applications for different kind of devices.
The first alternative I am thinking of is Feedly.
They are trying to make the transition easier. Clever move.
Re: Google Reader retired
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:30 pm
by barijaona
In
this August post, I wrote :
consider Netvibes, NewsBlur, GoodNoows and the likes. Netvibes has an API set, but I don't know if many apps use it, and I haven't read their privacy policy. zenCanCan might be another interesting alternative, because the software is opensource, so anyone competent enough could host it anywhere and get rid of privacy concerns. Is there a "market" for this ? I let you judge by yourself...
Now there is a market...
Re: Google Reader retired
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:34 pm
by barijaona
ergh99 wrote:I started using Vienna today for this reason and synching with Reader and then unchecking the option left the feeds intact, presumably unsynched, but all the feed labels are prefixed with [G].
Not having a quick way to remove that prefix is pretty much the only complaint I have

The best solution to get rid of Google :
- Use "File->Export Subscriptions" ; select both options "Export all subscriptions" and "Preserve group folders in exported file"
- Quit Vienna
- Delete (or, better, rename) the ~/Library/Application Support/Vienna/messages.db file
- Relaunch Vienna
- Delete the default subscriptions
- Use "File->Import Subscriptions", and point to the file saved at the first step.
Re: Google Reader retired
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:06 pm
by sfemet
Apologies for the rookie question: Will Vienna be able to sync between two macs without Google Reader?
Re: Google Reader retired
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:33 pm
by barijaona
sfemet wrote:Apologies for the rookie question: Will Vienna be able to sync between two macs without Google Reader?
Currently, not. But we are examining our options for the future.
Re: Google Reader retired
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:43 pm
by jhersco
Along similar lines, with Google Reader going away, how might one sync Vienna with IOS devices in the future?
Re: Google Reader retired
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:10 am
by barijaona
jhersco wrote:Along similar lines, with Google Reader going away, how might one sync Vienna with IOS devices in the future?
I hope many apps will follow
this path.
Re: Google Reader retired
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:31 pm
by Lopri
This is kind of a feature request: Tiny Tiny RSS is an online feedreader. It provides a
JSON API, could a future Version of Vienna support it?
Re: Google Reader retired
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:14 pm
by rh9now
+1 for Tiny Tiny RSS support!
Before Google Reader I use Tiny Tiny RSS for years and switched to Google Reader because of better client support for iOS. And use Vienna on the Mac, because it reminds me to the three-pane-view like TT-RSS. But Vienna is a lot better than TT-RSS in a browser.
It would be nice to add Tiny Tiny RSS API. Thank you very much

Re: Google Reader retired
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:05 am
by David Munch
barijaona wrote:sfemet wrote:Apologies for the rookie question: Will Vienna be able to sync between two macs without Google Reader?
Currently, not. But we are examining our options for the future.
How feasible would it be to use iCloud for this?
Re: Google Reader retired
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:56 am
by barijaona
David Munch wrote:
How feasible would it be to use iCloud for this?
iCloud is not cross platform ; its datas aren't even sharable with apps developed by separate firms/people.
iCloud is good at securing datas (sandboxing), but is not designed for sharing them.
Re: Google Reader retired
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:37 am
by barijaona
rh9now wrote:+1 for Tiny Tiny RSS support!
Before Google Reader I use Tiny Tiny RSS for years and switched to Google Reader because of better client support for iOS. And use Vienna on the Mac, because it reminds me to the three-pane-view like TT-RSS. But Vienna is a lot better than TT-RSS in a browser.
It seems there aren't so many options for users of TT-RSS with iOS and Android.
Just a single
Androïd client, and for iOS,
this webapp seems the only viable situation.
Did someone here test these ? Were you satisfied ? Or did I miss interesting alternatives ?
Re: Google Reader retired
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:41 pm
by Lopri
barijaona wrote:
It seems there aren't so many options for users of TT-RSS with iOS and Android.
Just a single
Androïd client, and for iOS,
this webapp seems the only viable situation.
Did someone here test these ? Were you satisfied ? Or did I miss interesting alternatives ?
On a iPad4 (and hence it should on Retina iPads) with a WLAN connection, the normal web interface is good enough in my opinion, at least in "Combined View". Only tested the web app on my desktop, it looks good enough there, but I don't have a iPhone to test it.
The Android app looks OK on my phone (Android 4.0.4), and the TT-RSS developer considers it as a reference implementation for the use of the external API.
Now, if there was a desktop application supporting it…

Re: Google Reader retired
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:40 pm
by barijaona
I setup a personal copy of Tiny Tiny RSS for testing, and tested with an iPad (with "digest" plugin activated) and an iPhone (the above-mentioned ttrss-mobile).
I like it, but I wouldn't say (yet ?) that I love it. It is surely a very capable product, but it's lacking a "best for doing something special" appeal for me.
I'll wait a few upgrades to check if the benefits of maintaining it up are worth the effort.
Re: Google Reader retired
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:12 pm
by barijaona
Lopri wrote:
The Android app looks OK on my phone (Android 4.0.4), and the TT-RSS developer considers it as a reference implementation for the use of the external API.
Alas, the source is GPL licensed, while Vienna is under an Apache license. Their are major incompatibilities between these licenses ; unless the TT-RSS developers agree unanimously on relaxing their position (doubtful), it's too risky looking at their code : we have to start from scratch.