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Issue: General delay on notifications
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:28 pm
by kroofy
It seems that the last couple of versions of Growl have put some kind of delay on the notifications.
I'm running Leopard now, but I had the same issue with Tiger.
Every notifications have about a 2 sec delay before showing.
This goes for all notifications regardless of what application sending them.
Even if I press the "Preview" button in the display options the same symptom is showing, it doesn't matter if change the style either, the issue is persistent.
Is it something that I have overlooked? (I searched in the forums without finding anything)
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:23 pm
by evands
Are you forwarding notifications to another computer over the network?
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:22 pm
by kroofy
Nope, just local, as I said in my initial post, even the preview button in the prefs have a delay on it.
One of my friends have the exact same problem too.
If I remember correctly, it started with a small delay after I installed a version that was released after one of the 0.7.x releases, and have then added even more delay with the latest versions.
Sound quite weird, but that's how I have experienced it.
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:46 pm
by evands
Any output to Console?
Run Activity Monitor. Type in "Growl" at the top of the window. What does GrowlHelperApp show while you're wating for a notification to appear after clicking Preview?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:40 am
by kroofy
2007-11-13 00.21.40 GrowlHelperApp[112] WARNING: could not register Growl server.
Seems like a weird warning since I haven't restarted either my computer or Growl, that's also the only output I have.
Anyhow, I monitored the growl process in the activity monitor and every time i hit the preview button the CPU usage jumps up to 80 - 100%
Update: Hmm, I was clicking the preview button in a sequence, about one click every 1/2 second, after about 5 clicks the help app crashed...
2007-11-13 01.45.29 ReportCrash[9643] Formulating crash report for process GrowlHelperApp[112]
2007-11-13 01.45.31 com.apple.launchd[83] ([0x0-0x15015].com.Growl.GrowlHelperApp[112]) Exited abnormally: Bus error
2007-11-13 01.45.34 ReportCrash[9643] Saved crashreport to /Users/xxxxxxx/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/GrowlHelperApp_2007-11-13-014522_kroofy.crash using uid: 501 gid: 501, euid: 501 egid: 501
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:47 am
by evands
And it stays at 80 to 100% for the 2 to 3 seconds until the notification appears?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:50 am
by kroofy
Yepp, that was the case.
However, after the crash (see my updated post above) the notifications have started to behave normally again, hrrrm...
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:57 am
by evands
Can we see the contents of
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/Users/xxxxxxx/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/GrowlHelperApp_2007-11-13-014522_kroofy.crash
please?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:13 am
by kroofy
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Process: GrowlHelperApp [112]
Path: /Library/PreferencePanes/Growl.prefPane/Contents/Resources/GrowlHelperApp.app/Contents/MacOS/GrowlHelperApp
Identifier: com.Growl.GrowlHelperApp
Version: 1.1.2 (1.1.2)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [83]
Date/Time: 2007-11-13 01:45:22.044 +0100
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5 (9A581)
Report Version: 6
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread: 3
Thread 0:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94df5e5e geteuid + 10
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x91b718fa CFPreferencesCopyAppValue + 42
2 com.apple.Foundation 0x91546fc4 -[NSUserDefaults(NSUserDefaults) objectForKey:] + 36
3 com.apple.WebKit 0x93afbcce -[WebPreferences _valueForKey:] + 174
4 com.apple.WebKit 0x93afbbce -[WebPreferences _integerValueForKey:] + 46
5 com.apple.WebKit 0x93afbb89 -[WebPreferences _boolValueForKey:] + 41
6 com.apple.WebKit 0x93b03b3c -[WebPreferences isJavaScriptEnabled] + 44
7 com.apple.WebKit 0x93b030d0 -[WebView(WebPrivate) _preferencesChangedNotification:] + 800
8 com.apple.Foundation 0x9154a77c _nsnote_callback + 364
9 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x91ae6a4a __CFXNotificationPost + 362
10 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x91ae6d23 _CFXNotificationPostNotification + 179
11 com.apple.Foundation 0x91547a70 -[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:userInfo:] + 128
12 com.apple.WebKit 0x93afb470 -[WebPreferences(WebPrivate) _postPreferencesChangesNotification] + 80
13 com.apple.WebKit 0x93afef4d -[WebView _commonInitializationWithFrameName:groupName:] + 1117
14 com.apple.WebKit 0x93afe98a -[WebView initWithFrame:frameName:groupName:] + 202
15 com.Growl.GrowlHelperApp 0x00012c09 0x1000 + 72713
16 com.Growl.GrowlHelperApp 0x00011f9f 0x1000 + 69535
17 com.Growl.GrowlHelperApp 0x0001cea6 0x1000 + 114342
18 com.Growl.GrowlHelperApp 0x0001c88c 0x1000 + 112780
19 com.Growl.GrowlHelperApp 0x00015978 0x1000 + 84344
20 com.apple.Foundation 0x9154a77c _nsnote_callback + 364
21 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x91ae678b __CFXNotificationHandleMessage + 587
22 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x91ae687e __CFXNotificationReceiveFromServer + 238
23 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x91ae15c5 __CFMachPortPerform + 117
24 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x91b05941 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 3921
25 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x91b05d38 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
26 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9123b8a4 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 283
27 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9123b6bd ReceiveNextEventCommon + 374
28 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9123b531 BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 106
29 com.apple.AppKit 0x95aafd5b _DPSNextEvent + 657
30 com.apple.AppKit 0x95aaf6a0 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 128
31 com.apple.AppKit 0x95aa86d1 -[NSApplication run] + 795
32 com.Growl.GrowlHelperApp 0x00021df8 0x1000 + 134648
33 com.Growl.GrowlHelperApp 0x00007367 0x1000 + 25447
34 com.Growl.GrowlHelperApp 0x00002baa 0x1000 + 7082
35 com.Growl.GrowlHelperApp 0x00002ad1 0x1000 + 6865
Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94dea8e6 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94df20dc mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x91b050fe CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1806
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x91b05d38 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
4 com.apple.Foundation 0x9164a1b8 -[NSConnection run] + 280
5 com.apple.Foundation 0x9154b04d -[NSThread main] + 45
6 com.apple.Foundation 0x9154abf4 __NSThread__main__ + 308
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94e1b075 _pthread_start + 321
8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94e1af32 thread_start + 34
Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94dea8e6 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94df20dc mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x91b050fe CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1806
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x91b05d38 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
4 com.apple.CFNetwork 0x94a837be CFURLCacheWorkerThread(void*) + 396
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94e1b075 _pthread_start + 321
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94e1af32 thread_start + 34
Thread 3 Crashed:
0 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x91accdfb CFDataGetLength + 43
1 com.apple.CFNetwork 0x94a8abc0 connDidLoadData + 66
2 com.apple.CFNetwork 0x94a8ab75 _CFURLProtocolSendDidLoadDataCallback + 55
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x915afa43 -[_NSCFURLProtocolBridge URLProtocol:didLoadData:] + 83
4 com.Growl.GrowlHelperApp 0x000139ca 0x1000 + 76234
5 com.apple.Foundation 0x915af644 bridgeStart + 68
6 com.apple.CFNetwork 0x94a89f4a CFURLProtocolStartLoad + 28
7 com.apple.CFNetwork 0x94a89d56 _CFURLConnectionProcessServerEvents + 664
8 com.apple.CFNetwork 0x94a881df muxerSourcePerform + 283
9 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x91b0564e CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 3166
10 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x91b05d38 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
11 com.apple.Foundation 0x915ae560 +[NSURLConnection(NSURLConnectionReallyInternal) _resourceLoadLoop:] + 320
12 com.apple.Foundation 0x9154b04d -[NSThread main] + 45
13 com.apple.Foundation 0x9154abf4 __NSThread__main__ + 308
14 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94e1b075 _pthread_start + 321
15 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94e1af32 thread_start + 34
Thread 4:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94e39f5a select$DARWIN_EXTSN + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94e1b075 _pthread_start + 321
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x94e1af32 thread_start + 34
Thread 3 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0xa03214ec ebx: 0x91accdde ecx: 0x91acda05 edx: 0x00000012
edi: 0x26cc4cf0 esi: 0x00000000 ebp: 0xb01a41f8 esp: 0xb01a41e0
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010287 eip: 0x91accdfb cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x0000001f gs: 0x00000037
cr2: 0x00000000
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:32 am
by evands
Hm. All Apple code. I dunno. Let us know if it recurs and maybe we can figure out some more debugging
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:59 am
by kroofy
Sure, will do. Thanks for your time
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:53 am
by The_Tick
I know you said it doesn't matter which style you try, but can you list the styles you have tried this with?
Leopard Scheduler-Induced Lag?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:02 pm
by xthemage
I'm seeing this lagging as well. It starts off unnoticeable when my computer first starts up but gradually grows until it reaches about 2-4 seconds.
It feels like the thread doing the displaying in Growl is getting shafted on cycles somehow. Notifications will often come in bursts (ie: nothing for 2-4 seconds and then a burst of all the notifications in the last 2-4 seconds). The notifications will sometimes fade most of the way in and then freeze at that point for a second or so.
The rest of my computer is running fine, but it feels like Growl's running on a 10 year old machine.
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:43 am
by bgannin
I'd hazard a guess and say everyone experiencing this is using display styles (the above crash log certainly indicates this) and that our use of WebKit and its caching is killing us. This seems to have come up in the past.
Re: Leopard Scheduler-Induced Lag?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:32 am
by The_Tick
xthemage wrote:I'm seeing this lagging as well. It starts off unnoticeable when my computer first starts up but gradually grows until it reaches about 2-4 seconds.
It feels like the thread doing the displaying in Growl is getting shafted on cycles somehow. Notifications will often come in bursts (ie: nothing for 2-4 seconds and then a burst of all the notifications in the last 2-4 seconds). The notifications will sometimes fade most of the way in and then freeze at that point for a second or so.
The rest of my computer is running fine, but it feels like Growl's running on a 10 year old machine.
What displays do you use?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:55 am
by bgannin
I just noticed the subject for a post and wanted to note that there really needs to be definitive proof that Leopard's scheduling subsystems are at fault before the finger wags in that direction given that they exist at a low enough level as to be more systemic in causing a slowdown rather than so directed (only Growl, only after running an displaying notifications for a while, etc.)
Re: Leopard Scheduler-Induced Lag?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:51 pm
by xthemage
The_Tick wrote:
What displays do you use?
Currently, I only use Crystal.
I'm not wagging my finger at Leopard's scheduling system. The display thread is running in a bursty manner and it feels like there's some sort of blockage going on. What's causing it? I've got no clue.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:10 pm
by The_Tick
Crystal is webkit. Try smoke or bubbles.
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:34 pm
by kroofy
The_Tick wrote:I know you said it doesn't matter which style you try, but can you list the styles you have tried this with?
Looks like my assumption was wrong (I only tried a few different styles). By using Bubbles instead of Crystal made the delay disappear.
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:18 pm
by gse
I'm seeing this too. I changed so many things at once (upgraded to Leopard, got the latest Growl, etc) that I can't tell what caused it. But I get a "ding" from Adium and then ~3 seconds later, the Growl notification shows up. I tried the "preview" button and it's slow as well.
I use the "Plain" display for most everything.
And stopping and restarting Growl seems to have made the delay go away.