GAIM Encryption

librarian · Post by **librarian** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:21 pm

Now that AOL is reserving the right to do anything they want to with the material you send over their service, including AIM, up to and including using it in promotional material without notifying you...

Wouldn't it be a really hoopy idea for Adium to support GAIM encryption?

:twisted:

michael · Post by **michael** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:48 pm

Well isn't there encryption in the betas? At least for MSN I don't have any other protocalls turned on

David Munch · Post by **David Munch** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:15 pm

michael wrote:Well isn't there encryption in the betas? At least for MSN I don't have any other protocalls turned on

Thats also what I've heard..

twopeak · Post by **twopeak** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:23 pm

just wondering, doesn't iChat work with AIM?
does that mean that they have the right to monitor what's on the camera feeds?
it freaks me out!

librarian · Post by **librarian** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 4:23 pm

Yes, iChat works with AIM.

twopeak wrote:does that mean that they have the right to monitor what's on the camera feeds?

I don't know if the camera feeds go through the server or are point-to-point between the users. Either way I'd want them encrypted.

:twisted:

TheSilverFox06 · Post by **TheSilverFox06** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 4:34 pm

I think this is total bullcrap. If you own a restaurant, and you hear one of your customers say "this restaurant is great", are you allowed to post a big sign in front of your restaurant that says "So and so says this restaurant is great" without their permission?

librarian · Post by **librarian** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:02 pm

TheSilverFox06 wrote:I think this is total bullcrap.

It may turn out to not be legally binding. I would still like to have the option of metaphorically whispering when I don't want AOL to overhear.

As an aside, I wrote an "encrypting" terminal program in 1983, for use with a TRS-80 based chat system. Captain Midnight's Secret Encoder Term was a joke... it only implemented a simple substitution cypher and the user interface only let you specify caesar ciphers... but I still find it surprising that this kind of thing isn't a standard feature of chat clients by now. It's only been 22 years, after all...

:twisted:

--ook

rootdaemon · Post by **rootdaemon** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:10 pm

Are Adium users affected and if so is there anyway to encrypt our messages?

Post by **The_Tick** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:11 pm

Couple of things here:

1) If you are all really concerned, you should move to jabber, right now.

2) the encryption for gaim isn't usable for us, or we'd use it. They need to separate their gui and their backend, along with other stuffs, in order for us to use it, as far as I know. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

3) We're including Off The Record (OTR) with .8

rootdaemon · Post by **rootdaemon** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:19 pm

Thank you very much for that. I just downloaded Off-The-Record and I'm getting it running now.

librarian · Post by **librarian** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:06 pm

The_Tick wrote:If you are all really concerned, you should move to jabber, right now.

Don't know how concerned I should be.

The problem with Jabber is that the people I talk to use AIM or iChat. THe people THEY talk to use AIM or iChat. Convincing them to move works better if I introduce one scary concept at a time.

[gaim encryption is broken]

Roger that.

3) We're including Off The Record (OTR) with .8

Sweet. The localhost proxy may be just the trick... thanks.

michael · Post by **michael** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:33 pm

Can I just point out that if this new addition to the AOL EULA agreement does turn out to be legally binding, surely encryption is pointless anyway, as AOL would have every right to brake throught that enrcyption (which they could probably do) anyway.

Post by **Catfish_Man** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:38 pm

michael wrote:Can I just point out that if this new addition to the AOL EULA agreement does turn out to be legally binding, surely encryption is pointless anyway, as AOL would have every right to brake throught that enrcyption (which they could probably do) anyway.

No, they're not capable of doing that.

Reikon · Post by **Reikon** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:05 pm

Can't someone sue AOL based on the Internet Privacy Act of 1995?

They're illegally eaves dropping on your private conversations. Next thing you know they'll be monitoring your e-mails.

wunderwood · Post by **wunderwood** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:45 pm

When have you ever been able to say anything over AIM. In general, don't talk about your plans to take over the world via AIM.

Post by **The_Tick** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:49 pm

Reikon wrote:Can't someone sue AOL based on the Internet Privacy Act of 1995?

They're illegally eaves dropping on your private conversations. Next thing you know they'll be monitoring your e-mails.

On their network resources...

librarian · Post by **librarian** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:28 pm

wunderwood wrote:When have you ever been able to say anything over AIM. In general, don't talk about your plans to take over the world via AIM.

That's what I told my friend Pinky. He had to change his name to Mr. Huggy and move to Patagonia.

Son of a Preacher Man · Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:31 pm

librarian wrote:That's what I told my friend Pinky. He had to change his name to Mr. Huggy and move to Patagonia.

Way to give away his secret!

zaudragon · Post by **zaudragon** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:00 am

Using Jabber, it is possible to talk to AIM users; use a server that has a portal to AIM.

Simple… I hope…

librarian · Post by **librarian** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:07 am

Ah, clever trick that. Use SASL to protect my messages through to the Jabber server, and then let AOL read it anyway.

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GAIM Encryption

What would you do if AOL published your AIM logs?

GAIM Encryption