So how does the Apple switch to Intel chips (officially announced today) affect the development of Adium? My guess would be nothing, in the near future, and some work in the distant future to transfer everything over to the new architecture. Of course my knowledge of coding is extremely limited. And there will probably not be much change in the look and feel and features of our beloved IM client.
I'd like to know what the Adium team and others think about this.
Intel Switch - what it means for Adium
Intel Switch - what it means for Adium
The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination.
My bad, i read it wrong earlier i guess.
I just read the entire article over an AnandTech; i find this switch quite exciting. I think i'll buy a new Mac when it's an intel based one that is running Leopard.
I just read the entire article over an AnandTech; i find this switch quite exciting. I think i'll buy a new Mac when it's an intel based one that is running Leopard.
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::right clicks on unique-> Selects "look up in dictionary" and reads results::Simba Cub wrote:We are not amused by this news
Kinda liked having a more unique processor...
Rich::
(yay for tiger) :-pDictionary.app wrote: For example, since the core meaning of unique (from Latin ‘one’) is ‘being only one of its kind,’ it is logically impossible, the argument goes, to submodify it: it either is ‘unique’ or it is not, and there are no stages in between.
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It is advisable, however, to use unique sparingly and not to modify it with | very, | quite, | really, etc.
Overall I have mixed feelings on the switch. I liked having a different Processor, and it was encouraging that Microsoft and other game makers were switching to PowerPC. But there is the undeniable argument that the PowerPC was not going to make a portable computer any time soon.
Hopfully the Intel processors will be 64-bit when they do the official roll-out (or at least by the time they re-vamp the high-end models)
Also, hold down command, control and d and put your mouse over a word in a Cocoa application. Nifty little trickSimba Cub wrote:You know, I had no idea you could do that! Thanks!axcess99 wrote:::right clicks on unique-> Selects "look up in dictionary" and reads results::
Rich::
I say huzzah for the switch, if for nothing else so that the laptops see a new processor for once.
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I'm assuming that for a good long time Adium will be compiled as a universal binary. At least I hope. I plan on still buying an iBook as I need a computer for college this autumn and will not wait to get an Intel-based Apple computer until I am out of college.
Not that it should be hard to do a universal binary since it'll be a simple check of a box in XCode if I'm correct.
Not that it should be hard to do a universal binary since it'll be a simple check of a box in XCode if I'm correct.
I don't think a simple checkbox in XCode took the Lightwave developers two daysdont_be_jack wrote:I'm assuming that for a good long time Adium will be compiled as a universal binary. At least I hope. I plan on still buying an iBook as I need a computer for college this autumn and will not wait to get an Intel-based Apple computer until I am out of college.
Not that it should be hard to do a universal binary since it'll be a simple check of a box in XCode if I'm correct.
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They completely compiled new code that was x86 specific. For compiling a program in universal binary, you just need to check a box in XCode and when you compile the code, it'll be able to run on both processors.jstamos wrote:I don't think a simple checkbox in XCode took the Lightwave developers two daysdont_be_jack wrote:I'm assuming that for a good long time Adium will be compiled as a universal binary. At least I hope. I plan on still buying an iBook as I need a computer for college this autumn and will not wait to get an Intel-based Apple computer until I am out of college.
Not that it should be hard to do a universal binary since it'll be a simple check of a box in XCode if I'm correct.
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The dev kits and test machine at the keynote are x86 machines, but I am sure that when the Intel-based units finally ship, they will all be x64. I find it hard to believe that after Apple's 64-bit push with the G5 they would return to 32-bit chips.jstamos wrote:...uh, a Pentium IV is x86, and that's what they ran Mac OS X at the Keynote. So yes, they are switching to x86.MBHockey wrote:Apple is not switching to x86 architecture...
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x86 is often used synonymously with x86-64, AMD64, and EM64T (all different names for the same thing). My guess is that OSX will run on either 32 or 64 bit x86, so that they can use the Pentium-M, which won't be 64 bit for a bit. The Pentium-4 is already 64 bit for the newest ones, as are all the new Athlons.
And yes, it should be as simple as a checkbox or two in Xcode to make Adium run nicely on both. There's the possibility that we have some endian-specific code, but I kinda doubt it, and if there is some there isn't much.
And yes, it should be as simple as a checkbox or two in Xcode to make Adium run nicely on both. There's the possibility that we have some endian-specific code, but I kinda doubt it, and if there is some there isn't much.
No. If you watch the keynote, some Cocoa apps will need minor tweaks in addition to the checkbox. Adium, however, will likely be okay.dont_be_jack wrote:They completely compiled new code that was x86 specific. For compiling a program in universal binary, you just need to check a box in XCode and when you compile the code, it'll be able to run on both processors.
And... in the end, does it really matter? Adium is Cocoa, which is the easiest to port behind Widgets/Java/Scripts, and there is a year until the first Intel-based macs come out.
But after does tweaks the simple checkbox will allow you to compile for both processors without modifying the code.jstamos wrote:No. If you watch the keynote, some Cocoa apps will need minor tweaks in addition to the checkbox. Adium, however, will likely be okay.dont_be_jack wrote:They completely compiled new code that was x86 specific. For compiling a program in universal binary, you just need to check a box in XCode and when you compile the code, it'll be able to run on both processors.
And... in the end, does it really matter? Adium is Cocoa, which is the easiest to port behind Widgets/Java/Scripts, and there is a year until the first Intel-based macs come out.