how to rename a group?

mandrak.e · Post by **mandrak.e** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:00 pm

i haven't been successful finding a rename option for the groups. is there a way to rename a group completely. more than just putting some name in the alias of the group?

Post by **bgannin** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:36 pm

I believe that is currently the only solution other than opening the official client and changing it there.

Bosk · Post by **Bosk** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:25 pm

create a new group, move all the contacts, delete the first one. a pretty ugly and risky workaround tho

Gary King · Post by **Gary King** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:31 pm

Why can't we rename a group 'directly'?

Post by **bgannin** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:38 pm

IIRC it requires serverside calls (via gaim) that either:

a) aren't there, or
b) aren't hooked up/tested

Post by **evands** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:41 pm

bgannin wrote:b) aren't hooked up/tested

and
c) are scary

Gary King · Post by **Gary King** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:20 pm

Okay; well, whenever we have a chance to implement it, then that'd be awesome

Wengero · Post by **Wengero** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:40 pm

how about making adium secretly create a new group, move contacts, delete old group?

Post by **bgannin** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:49 pm

That'd be incredibly foolhardy... what happens if it fails in mid-move, what if you exceed any server limits, bandwidth drops, etc. Not to mention it would all be to workaround the actual way of doing it, which is never a solid idea.

Post by **evands** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:04 am

bgannin wrote:That'd be incredibly foolhardy... what happens if it fails in mid-move, what if you exceed any server limits, bandwidth drops, etc. Not to mention it would all be to workaround the actual way of doing it, which is never a solid idea.

Which is why, since the Gaim implementation does exactly that, I consider it scary

Gary King · Post by **Gary King** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:05 am

The difference between the way Trillian handles this and Adium handles this, is that Trillian creates a 'local' group that only exists locally on the computer, while Adium's groups are actually created on the server? So, if I were to uninstall Adium and reinstall it, my contacts would be in their correct groups? Or, if I were to open the official clients, then they would be found in their correct groups?

Kepi · Post by **Kepi** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:20 am

Gary King wrote:...while Adium's groups are actually created on the server? So, if I were to uninstall Adium and reinstall it, my contacts would be in their correct groups? Or, if I were to open the official clients, then they would be found in their correct groups?

Yes and yes

Gary King · Post by **Gary King** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:23 am

Kepi wrote:
Gary King wrote:...while Adium's groups are actually created on the server? So, if I were to uninstall Adium and reinstall it, my contacts would be in their correct groups? Or, if I were to open the official clients, then they would be found in their correct groups?
Yes and yes

Which gives Adium some problems with groups, though, sometimes, because it then has to abide by the rules of the particular IM network. Most of the time, when I move a contact from one group to another, it doesn't move successfully. For instance, I restart Adium, and thet contact is back in its old group.

Post by **The_Tick** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:52 am

Local groups suck more though

Gary King · Post by **Gary King** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:42 pm

The_Tick wrote:Local groups suck more though

Yeah, that's why I have to recreate all of my groups, etc. because I migrated from Trillian to Adium.

ofri · Post by **ofri** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:38 pm

The_Tick wrote:Local groups suck more though

Not if they're smart, if you understand me 8)
Also, I guess Adium could create a local group, create a new server group, move the contacts, delete the original group and compare the new group with the local one. I also don't think it's worth it :-P