Google Talk updates

snarfer · Post by **snarfer** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:59 pm

Google announced that they have released thier Gtalk/Jabber API today. The article and source is here;
libjingle.

Post by **Catfish_Man** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:06 pm

I haven't looked in any detail, but my response so far is: "hawt!"

snarfer · Post by **snarfer** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:08 pm

Best part: open-source.

Post by **bgannin** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:55 pm

Catfish_Man wrote:I haven't looked in any detail, but my response so far is: "hawt!"

True dat. Time to d/l & play with the API :twisted:

uttaddmb · Post by **uttaddmb** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:51 pm

If GTalk voice chat makes its way into Adium, I may weep with happiness.

Post by **bgannin** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:19 pm

uttaddmb wrote:

If GTalk voice chat makes its way into Adium, I may weep with happiness.

Let's not run with scissors yet

The provided API makes available other functionality [for example, a P2P stack, which I think could be interesting], although GTalk voice is present. To add that to Adium would require not only getting this to compile & run on OS X, but also adding input support (microphone anybody?) and then a sharp interface, likely including level indicators and whatnot (as well as rings, menu items, some type of event logging to at least indicate you had a conversation [audio] with someone, etc. .) That's some serious time investment...

uttaddmb · Post by **uttaddmb** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:48 pm

bgannin wrote: Let's not run with scissors yet

The provided API makes available other functionality [for example, a P2P stack, which I think could be interesting], although GTalk voice is present. To add that to Adium would require not only getting this to compile & run on OS X, but also adding input support (microphone anybody?) and then a sharp interface, likely including level indicators and whatnot (as well as rings, menu items, some type of event logging to at least indicate you had a conversation [audio] with someone, etc. .) That's some serious time investment...

Oh, I know. I'm not expecting to happen anytime soon, or even at all. It was just a pleasant thought.

Right now, I'd settle for an official OS X GTalk client. Even a beta one.

Post by **bgannin** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:00 am

With those crazy Google guys who knows

Post by **evands** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:15 am

Every Mac laptop given to Google folks has Adium preinstalled... why make an official client when you've got Adium and open standards?

Wengero · Post by **Wengero** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:04 am

i was thinking before that google doesnt need to have a gtalk client, they have developers on gaim and know that the gaim changes will come in adium

its all part of there master plan

Post by **bgannin** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:42 am

evands wrote:Every Mac laptop given to Google folks has Adium preinstalled... why make an official client when you've got Adium and open standards?

Where'd ya hear that

ajmas · Post by **ajmas** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:27 am

Maybe a question to ask, is whether anyone has seen any voice/video chat applications with a usable interface that they like? It might help serve as a reference point for anyone wanting to spend the time adding this support to Adium.

Note that since at this point in time it is not considered a high priority by the Adium development team, partly because of other priorities and lack of expertise in that area, anyone wanting to provide a prototype of that functionality would be welcomed - by me at any rate.

Current applications that provide voice chat support, and might serve as reference, on the Mac include Gizmo, Skype and iChat. If there are others I am not aware of them. Note that Gizmo already has some sort of Adium integration in the form of a plug-in available from the Adium Xtras page.

For an initial version to get the ball rolling, something that would simply allow initiating a voice connection would be nice. Video would be added after voice, and to make life easier I believe simply supporting a DV camera to start with would make sense, since Quicktime already provides support for that.

blumie607 · Post by **blumie607** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:08 am

I was just reading this on the Google Talk blog:

1. Voice calls between other PC IM/VOIP clients such as Gaim, Adium, Psi, etc. and Google Talk.
Since we launched the beta of Google Talk in August, many users (especially those using Linux and Mac) have been connecting to the service using one of many 3rd party clients. However, up to now, these clients have only been able to send and receive IMs, but not make voice calls. With the release of Libjingle, the makers of these clients will be able to add the ability to make and receive calls between their clients and Google Talk. In fact, they'll be able to support calls between their clients and ANY OTHER clients that support Libjingle .

From what that says, it sounds like it would be pretty simple to integrate this Libljingle thingy into Adium... (although, It also might not be...)

Post by **bgannin** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:15 am

blumie607 wrote: (although, It also might not be...)

The key part of this quote is above.

zaudragon · Post by **zaudragon** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:11 pm

bgannin wrote:
blumie607 wrote: (although, It also might not be...)
The key part of this quote is above.

Yes, it would be extremely difficult to use this libjingle; we don’t have an interface that exists for this…