Gaim-vv merge and Jingle

ajmas · Post by **ajmas** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:19 pm

I just found out that Google has published their draft specification for Jingle, specs, which extend XMPP for use in voice over IP (VoIP), video, and other peer-to-peer multimedia sessions. (news announced 14 Dec 2005)

Also the gaim-vv project—which aimed to offer a framework for voice and video support in Gaim—is being merged back into Gaim proper for hopeful incorporation into Gaim 2.0.0. This will be used to support Google Talk's voice as well as MSN and Yahoo! webcams. (news announced 12 Oct 2005)

All this looks good for voice chat abilities. I certainly look forward to seeing these being taken advantage of, possibly in Adium 1.0? Or would this be too soon?

Ethion · Post by **Ethion** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:00 pm

ajmas wrote:I just found out that Google has published their draft specification for Jingle, specs, which extend XMPP for use in voice over IP (VoIP), video, and other peer-to-peer multimedia sessions. (news announced 14 Dec 2005)

Also the gaim-vv project—which aimed to offer a framework for voice and video support in Gaim—is being merged back into Gaim proper for hopeful incorporation into Gaim 2.0.0. This will be used to support Google Talk's voice as well as MSN and Yahoo! webcams. (news announced 12 Oct 2005)

All this looks good for voice chat abilities. I certainly look forward to seeing these being taken advantage of, possibly in Adium 1.0? Or would this be too soon?

First thing first, we alredy knew about the merging, I posted a thread about a month ago. And you can also read about it on GAIM and on the Adium blog.
And no it won't come with 1.0, and probably not soon there after.

We have discussed this before, and you can search, look at the trac/wiki and even find threads on the first page.

Post by **bgannin** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:28 pm

Please please please search the forums before starting a new thread. This is at least the third thread in under a month to discuss A/V support in Adium, inevitably dove-tailing into gaim.

ajmas · Post by **ajmas** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:08 pm

sorry. my bad.

Damienoneill · Post by **Damienoneill** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:16 pm

No problem really

People should chill a bit on the searching, people miss topics and are not going to search the entire forum just in case. Things can have different wording and forum searchs are usually long and annoying

Wengero · Post by **Wengero** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:24 pm

well theres a post 5 below this one called google talk updates

Post by **bgannin** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:35 pm

Damienoneill wrote:No problem really

People should chill a bit on the searching, people miss topics and are not going to search the entire forum just in case. Things can have different wording and forum searchs are usually long and annoying

This is a fair assertion, however, when it's an incredibly common topic (file transfer, icons, video, voice, A/V) it would certainly not be unfair to ask. I spend my time going through the new threads and replying while still managing to work a full time software engineering job and run an independent software company and work on Adium as time permits... so if I can do that users who want feedback can do the minimum and search before asking.

If you think this an isolated type of behavior, check out the cocoa-dev mailing list. Searching is harped on there because, as the moderator states, "Please bear in mind that there are several thousand subscribers to the Cocoa-dev list, including many Apple engineers. Every post in effect costs the Cocoa community hundreds of dollars to process (and takes time away from the engineers who might be working on the fix to your bug!). Please stay on topic."

Instead of the cost of $$ the cost is free time and redundancy (the reason the forum search gets so unwieldy is that 20 people start threads for the same central topic and then you don't know what to look at, thus we return to "search first")

And yes, I'm aware I could just not respond, but if I have something to chime in, and (might) possibly help, then hey, why not

Post by **The_Tick** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 4:18 am

Damienoneill wrote:No problem really

People should chill a bit on the searching, people miss topics and are not going to search the entire forum just in case. Things can have different wording and forum searchs are usually long and annoying

And so is dealing with duplicate posts. Searching for already answered questions really does matter.

And, to prove that it's not so hard to search, here we go, three searches that would have brought up this topic:

vv

First, I searched for vv.

Then I searched for gaim-vv

Finally, I searched for video

You cannot tell me that this is hard to find in a search. Asking people to search is what we do in order to get people to look for the solution instead of making us do it. If you search, it really does help us out.

djmori · Post by **djmori** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:05 pm

you guys should place a BIIIG BANER on top of the forum ..... something like "Search previus forums and/or wiki before posting"

Ethion · Post by **Ethion** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:49 pm

or make the search (text)button huge.

snarfer · Post by **snarfer** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:02 pm

Ethion wrote:or make the search (text)button huge.

CLICK ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO!1

Wengero · Post by **Wengero** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:08 pm

snarfer wrote:
Ethion wrote:or make the search (text)button huge.
CLICK ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO!1

hey get away from my signature!

snarfer · Post by **snarfer** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:10 pm

But it doesn't have as many exclamation points.

Post by **The_Tick** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 7:09 pm

snarfer wrote:But it doesn't have as many exclamation points.

You're avatar is too big, make it smaller or change it.

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