A different way of Organizing contacts

Post by **Catfish_Man** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:59 pm

The_Tick wrote:Ya, I agree. This is something that would be way easier to make with chatkit (ofri and cfm have both said that, so it must be true!)

Sorting is easy enough to do right now; what chatkit's group concept allows for is smart groups.

yelly · Post by **yelly** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:52 pm

I think all what is going on here is trying to make Adium more Tigery (i.e., spotlight, smart groups, meta contact metadata etc.), these are all really awesome ideas, and i'm sure tiger core services and stuff could really help here. memark, isn't reinventing the wheel one of Adium's main objectives?

Post by **Catfish_Man** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:16 pm

yelly wrote:I think all what is going on here is trying to make Adium more Tigery (i.e., spotlight, smart groups, meta contact metadata etc.), these are all really awesome ideas, and i'm sure tiger core services and stuff could really help here. memark, isn't reinventing the wheel one of Adium's main objectives?

Core Services ... please do elaborate (I suggest figuring out what you're talking about before you do, though).

yelly · Post by **yelly** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:22 pm

Catfish_Man wrote:
yelly wrote:I think all what is going on here is trying to make Adium more Tigery (i.e., spotlight, smart groups, meta contact metadata etc.), these are all really awesome ideas, and i'm sure tiger core services and stuff could really help here. memark, isn't reinventing the wheel one of Adium's main objectives?
Core Services ... please do elaborate (I suggest figuring out what you're talking about before you do, though).

I don't know what I'm talking about, it just all sounded so Tiger!...

Ders · Post by **Ders** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:06 pm

The one concern I have about this is that it is putting a lot of buttons on the buddy list. I have a 12inch powerbook and so screen space is an issue and I use the hiding on the edge of the screen to keep things to minimum.

Bouba · Post by **Bouba** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 4:14 pm

medicine wrote:Ok to extend on the first idea. Now we have hearts that when clicked fill up a little more each time 5 clicks will make the heart full, this contact has priority over others. While I was at it added a contact search panel

Wow!! this reminds me sooo much of Zelda!!

Tipo 61 · Post by **Tipo 61** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 4:40 pm

Bouba wrote:
medicine wrote:Ok to extend on the first idea. Now we have hearts that when clicked fill up a little more each time 5 clicks will make the heart full, this contact has priority over others. While I was at it added a contact search panel
Wow!! this reminds me sooo much of Zelda!!

Oooooooh! Can contacts have multiple heart containers?

Post by **The_Tick** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:23 pm

Tipo 61 wrote:
Bouba wrote:
medicine wrote:Ok to extend on the first idea. Now we have hearts that when clicked fill up a little more each time 5 clicks will make the heart full, this contact has priority over others. While I was at it added a contact search panel
Wow!! this reminds me sooo much of Zelda!!
Oooooooh! Can contacts have multiple heart containers?

I wonder what happens when contacts gain all the pieces of the triforce?!

mipadi · Post by **mipadi** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:05 pm

The_Tick wrote:
Tipo 61 wrote:
Bouba wrote: Wow!! this reminds me sooo much of Zelda!!
Oooooooh! Can contacts have multiple heart containers?
I wonder what happens when contacts gain all the pieces of the triforce?!

A better question is: Does something special happen when a contact's hearts are full?

yelly · Post by **yelly** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:07 pm

mipadi wrote:
The_Tick wrote:
Tipo 61 wrote: Oooooooh! Can contacts have multiple heart containers?
I wonder what happens when contacts gain all the pieces of the triforce?!
A better question is: Does something special happen when a contact's hearts are full?

maybe they get Bow-Wow (is that how you spell it? it's been so long...)

BaselineAce · Post by **BaselineAce** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:41 pm

I used to use Gaim on Windows and Linux. The ability to sort by log file size was BIG for me.

Post by **Catfish_Man** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:08 pm

This has already been requested, and requests should go on Trac

irae · Post by **irae** » Tue May 23, 2006 4:37 am

I'm just saying good buy to windows. I've bought an MacBook Pro and soon it will arrive here in Brazil

But lately I've been using the latest Miranda nightly builds and I tought it might help a litle to know how it handles contacts ordering.

In the contact-list you can right-click an user and set it as "priority contact". The priority is visible only in the right-click menu.

In the Options dialog you have an fieldset "Sort contacts by" with 3 drop-down menus whith the folowing options:
- Contact Priority
- Name
- Status
- Protocol
- Last message time
- - nothing -

If Adium uses the same method you could increase the number of dorp-down menus to 4 and the options could include:
- Log size
- Groups

The log size I think Miranda lacks most. The groups is my new own idea.

For exemple, you could sort you list by priority, then status, then by group, and last by log size. This way you could get first of all, online or offline your girlfrind. She will be folowed by online contacts, then away people and them offline. But my family will be the top of the online contacts, then my frieds and so on.

Sorting by groups or by protocol will be used by few people, but can comes handy for someone.

About the GUI ideas: I like the hearts looks. I realy like. But I also think that the contact list should be clean. A list with 300 contacts and 3 favs would have 297 grayscale hearts (lost space). But in a Control+click menu this feature is realy a must-have!

Also the feature of multiple grades of hearts is IMHO a time hungry feature... people can go hours ordering contacs and never finding thenselves satisfied with the ordering. Lets IM the whole night, not sort contacts the whole night

(but if you do implement that, please, pack the zelda sounds with it! then I will spend the night miself giving and killing some hearts!)

Post by **evands** » Tue May 23, 2006 11:20 am

You can't do it independent of status, but you can get darn close to what you want simply with a Status sort, sorting within status groupings manually. Drag contacts around with that enabled; Adium will keep track of who should be shown above whom and continue to respect that as statuses change.

irae · Post by **irae** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 12:48 am

Ok,

Lets see, I didn't mean to say that that's what I want. I personaly whant a little diferent configuration than that. But think thats the better way to configure and sort contacts in the contact list.

I also was thinking. Some option like "has avatar" could be of some use too.

but coming back to the topic, sort the list by favorites is still a great feature... is it simple to have in adium?

djmori · Post by **djmori** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:41 am

I say Quality over quantiy. I prefer having a nice and simple rating system, instead of a full new set of preferences. :S

Post by **bgannin** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:37 am

The breadth of configurability in Adium's present and past has been as much a bane as a blessing.

BaselineAce · Post by **BaselineAce** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:23 am

Bouba wrote:
Catfish_Man wrote:One thing I do plan to implement is "Sort by how much I talk to each person". Haven't worked out the best way of doing so yet, though.
humm.. good point. best way would be to retain the users according to the amount of time you've spent in an active conversation, and the number of time a conversation was initiated with the user.

They would then be favorites... automatically!

edit: and filter out people I haven't spoken to in months - to avoid ghosts.

This would be huge. I've been waiting for this for years!