UI suggestion: bezel

Post by **The_Tick** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:45 am

evands wrote:What happens with transparent contact info window + status message/profile which contains formatting/colors/background colors?

The end of time approaches

Post by **bgannin** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:49 am

evands wrote:What happens with transparent contact info window + status message/profile which contains formatting/colors/background colors?

HUD windows are usually like 80 - 90% opacity, the controls on them being 100% or close to it IIRC. Thus it wouldn't be a problem in my posited suggestion. [and if necessary, a background around the profile could remain for this exception]

yelly · Post by **yelly** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:14 pm

I agree about info windows being HUDs, it's cool. The way it's looking, we will be seeing a lot of HUDs from apple soon, and from other developers soon later. they are catching on well.

xpander · Post by **xpander** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:47 pm

Isn't the correct term for HUD a Dashboard? I know it's confusing with the actual Dashboard environment, but that what The Steve™ calls it.

But I agree, it does look sweet, and a Dashboard style Info window would be secksy. I think I'll mock on eup and see what I think. If you take a look at the nightly WebKit builds, they have an elemet inspector that I think would be a good base to start from.

ofri · Post by **ofri** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:15 pm

If I'm not mistaking, HUD windows are implemented in the ProKit framework. The only problem is that it's a private framework

I think a simple class-dump may give us whatever we need in order to use Apple's HUD windows, and it's not like Adium uses only public classes...
* Points to the image picker window *

I see no point in recreating this from scratch.

Post by **bgannin** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:40 pm

WebKit's inspector is done with JavaScript and whatnot, it's not actually Objective-C/Cocoa. The only issue with using Apple's ProKit framework is that this is simply 1 style of HUD that will end up marrying ourselves to [since many, even the teams within Apple, will end up rolling their own] and requires the presence of the ProKit, which I think only comes with the Pro apps (unless I'm mistaken)

Post by **The_Tick** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:06 pm

http://www.andymatuschak.org/articles/2 ... emed-party

Post by **bgannin** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:30 pm

The_Tick wrote:http://www.andymatuschak.org/articles/2 ... emed-party

A good article, I'm looking forward to Andy getting his laptop fixed

[and also how I'd approach making a HUD window for use in Adium]

djmori · Post by **djmori** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:50 pm

good news.
http://mattgemmell.com/2006/03/12/hudwindow

ofri · Post by **ofri** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:17 pm

djmori wrote:good news.
http://mattgemmell.com/2006/03/12/hudwindow

Looking good.

yelly · Post by **yelly** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:16 pm

sorry for bumping, but 3 things:
1. how are we going on this front? I still think a HUD get info window is way cool.
2. just had an idea, how about putting a "inspector" icon in the chat toolbar, and make that open the info window? more than once I was in the middle of a chat and I wanted to get some info about my contact etc.
3. I thinks that the info window should be redone (not only "HUDised"*), but actually reorganised, I remember, the first time I used the get info window, I just couldn't figure out how it worked and what it did...

* I claim the rights for that...

Post by **bgannin** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:35 pm

1. No change.
2. Isn't there a toolbar item already? If not, definitely seems like an oversight.
3. It likely would, at least to some degree, but that goes hand in hand with (1)

yelly · Post by **yelly** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:22 pm

bgannin wrote:2. Isn't there a toolbar item already? If not, definitely seems like an oversight.

maybe there is in 1.0, but as of the public version, nope.

zaudragon · Post by **zaudragon** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:32 am

yelly wrote:
bgannin wrote:2. Isn't there a toolbar item already? If not, definitely seems like an oversight.
maybe there is in 1.0, but as of the public version, nope.

Did you try Configuring the toolbar?

yelly · Post by **yelly** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:12 pm

zaudragon wrote:
yelly wrote:
bgannin wrote:2. Isn't there a toolbar item already? If not, definitely seems like an oversight.
maybe there is in 1.0, but as of the public version, nope.
Did you try Configuring the toolbar?

as in "right click - customise toolbar"? yes.

Post by **evands** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:00 pm

The image is an address book-ish card with an Adium head for the picture. The name is "Show Info".

zaudragon · Post by **zaudragon** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:21 am

yelly wrote:
zaudragon wrote:
yelly wrote: maybe there is in 1.0, but as of the public version, nope.
Did you try Configuring the toolbar?
as in "right click - customise toolbar"? yes.

It’s not an “I” by the way, it’s a ID-ish icon…

yelly · Post by **yelly** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:11 pm

evands wrote:The image is an address book-ish card with an Adium head for the picture. The name is "Show Info".

WOW, completely missed that one. I still prefer the inspector icon, but that's just personal preference, and the current icon is pretty nice.

djmori · Post by **djmori** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:09 pm

yelly wrote: 1. how are we going on this front? I still think a HUD get info window is way cool.

Mee too; any chance this would be in a future release? (1.5 or so?)

Post by **bgannin** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:33 pm

It's not on a roadmap, but the idea will likely be fleshed out and tested as the resources (as noted in this thread) become available.