auto correction

yelly · Post by **yelly** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:02 pm

for talking to those people who I would prefer to use real words, but i still can't give up my IM shorthand, how about an easily toggelable, iWork style, auto correction pref-pane? (I am requesting this as one of those "eh, would be nice to have" things).

Post by **cbarrett** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:45 pm

This would be great as a 3rd party plugin.

yelly · Post by **yelly** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:03 pm

no disrespect meant, but why not as a built-in feature?

Post by **bgannin** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:32 pm

Not every single idea needs to be a built in feature.

TheSilverFox06 · Post by **TheSilverFox06** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:53 pm

I agree that this would probably be best suited as a plug-in. It seems way too specialized to be a built-in feature.

yelly · Post by **yelly** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:19 pm

should I post a request on track for a plugin or do these kind of things go elsewhere?

memark · Post by **memark** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:20 pm

For those of us who don't have iWork, could you describe a little further how you'd like it to work?

yelly · Post by **yelly** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:24 pm

a picture is worth a thousand words...

Post by **cbarrett** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:39 pm

Ideally, the plugin would be implemented by you!

But if you're not able to program yet, that's OK. Once we get a stable plugin API (is that somewhere on the roadmap? 1.1?), we'll make a big hullaballoo, so feel free to pitch your idea (I think it's a great one) then

yelly · Post by **yelly** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:47 pm

as I said in the games thread I started, my coding abilities are no good as of now, but i'm getting there, and when I can, I will, until then, can someone put it on a todo list somewhere?

memark · Post by **memark** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:08 pm

cbarrett wrote:Ideally, the plugin would be implemented by you! But if you're not able to program yet, that's OK. Once we get a stable plugin API (is that somewhere on the roadmap? 1.1?), we'll make a big hullaballoo, so feel free to pitch your idea (I think it's a great one) then

cbarret, are you saying that ppl should avoid writing new plugins (because of large changes etc) until then, or just that the plugin API will be improved further on?

Post by **Catfish_Man** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:16 pm

memark wrote:
cbarrett wrote:Ideally, the plugin would be implemented by you! But if you're not able to program yet, that's OK. Once we get a stable plugin API (is that somewhere on the roadmap? 1.1?), we'll make a big hullaballoo, so feel free to pitch your idea (I think it's a great one) then
cbarret, are you saying that ppl should avoid writing new plugins (because of large changes etc) until then, or just that the plugin API will be improved further on?

I would not be surprised to see plugins break between releases until a stable API is provided.

Post by **evands** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:47 am

The Filtering API should be pretty stable at this point.

memark · Post by **memark** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:46 am

yelly wrote:
a picture is worth a thousand words...

yelly, would you like the replacement to be done 'inline' (after you type e.g. a space) or when you send each completed line? I would guess the latter is easier to implement, but you would have less control of what you're actually sending away...

yelly · Post by **yelly** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:51 pm

memark wrote:
yelly wrote:
a picture is worth a thousand words...
yelly, would you like the replacement to be done 'inline' (after you type e.g. a space) or when you send each completed line? I would guess the latter is easier to implement, but you would have less control of what you're actually sending away...

I like the way iWork implements it (i.e., inline).

memark · Post by **memark** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:54 pm

OK, I've decided to give this a try. Any comments on how it should behave are greatly appreciated! Specific questions for now:

Should it only "complete" whole words? Or does subwords expand as well?
The completion needs to be undoable. But is cmd-z the best way, given that the completion is not really an action done by the user? How about pressing backspace instead?
Completing inline, does that mean at the last character, or as soon as a delimiter (space, comma, dot...) is typed?

Post by **bgannin** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:05 pm

The problem with only using backspace is what happens when a user wants to autocomplete "tlp" into "10 large pizzas" but then decides that the "s" looks dumb... hits backspace and the completion is voided. There is no way to delete characters in auto-completed words per this suggestion (at least, as far as I see it so far)

Likely a delimiter or a key sequence is your best trigger. Keep in mind also that Mac OS X 10.4 includes auto-completion on it's own which is accessible in all text fields by hitting Option+Escape in the middle of a word. Just a random fact that may (or may not) come into play.

Egypt Urnash · Post by **Egypt Urnash** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:54 pm

The original poster might want to play with Textpander or TypeIt4Me to get this sort of functionality in the whole OS.

Post by **Catfish_Man** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:14 am

bgannin wrote:Keep in mind also that Mac OS X 10.4 includes auto-completion on it's own which is accessible in all text fields by hitting Option+Escape in the middle of a word. Just a random fact that may (or may not) come into play.

This appears to be overridable, btw. Check out SEE's cocoa completion.

memark · Post by **memark** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:12 am

Egypt Urnash wrote:The original poster might want to play with Textpander or TypeIt4Me to get this sort of functionality in the whole OS.

Textpander is simply marvellous! Unless someone finds something very wrong with it, my project is hereby cancelled.