skype implementation

MacZilla · Post by **MacZilla** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:29 pm

As skype is more then voice over internet, but also a messenger, would it be interesting to ad skype to the list as well?

And also:
Voice via ichat or skype, is there a future here for Adium?

greets
MacZilla

Post by **bgannin** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:42 pm

Welcome to the Forums.

A quick search will turn up 10+ threads mentioning voice/video chat support. It's also in the sticky thread at the top of this forum.

As to Skype... likely not very soon as they've got Yet Another Proprietary Protocol to be sniffed, reverse-engineered, and recreated. Add in custom encryption/compression IIRC and that makes tons of work

Post by **The_Tick** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:57 am

bgannin wrote:Welcome to the Forums.

A quick search will turn up 10+ threads mentioning voice/video chat support. It's also in the sticky thread at the top of this forum.

As to Skype... likely not very soon as they've got Yet Another Proprietary Protocol to be sniffed, reverse-engineered, and recreated. Add in custom encryption/compression IIRC and that makes tons of work

Umm.. have you seen the official skype sdk?

Post by **Catfish_Man** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:47 am

The_Tick wrote:
bgannin wrote:Welcome to the Forums.

A quick search will turn up 10+ threads mentioning voice/video chat support. It's also in the sticky thread at the top of this forum.

As to Skype... likely not very soon as they've got Yet Another Proprietary Protocol to be sniffed, reverse-engineered, and recreated. Add in custom encryption/compression IIRC and that makes tons of work

Umm.. have you seen the official skype sdk?

!!! they have an SDK? Man, for a project started by the Kazaa folks they sure are doing things pretty much correctly (a few minor nitpicks like the fugly non-editable UI, but hey it's a Cocoa app using Altivec, that implies at least some care in the port).

Post by **evands** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 3:27 am

Catfish_Man wrote:
The_Tick wrote:
bgannin wrote:Welcome to the Forums.

A quick search will turn up 10+ threads mentioning voice/video chat support. It's also in the sticky thread at the top of this forum.

As to Skype... likely not very soon as they've got Yet Another Proprietary Protocol to be sniffed, reverse-engineered, and recreated. Add in custom encryption/compression IIRC and that makes tons of work

Umm.. have you seen the official skype sdk?
!!! they have an SDK? Man, for a project started by the Kazaa folks they sure are doing things pretty much correctly (a few minor nitpicks like the fugly non-editable UI, but hey it's a Cocoa app using Altivec, that implies at least some care in the port).

http://www.skype.com/community/devzone/doc.html says "Skype API is initially only available for and supported on Microsoft Windows."

Post by **bgannin** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 3:35 am

Is it open-source friendly? Edit: haha, Windows only, feels about right

Post by **The_Tick** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:29 am

Right, but we could probably pick up on what they are doing based on what they have provided.

Post by **evands** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:34 am

The_Tick wrote:Right, but we could probably pick up on what they are doing based on what they have provided.

Perhaps. If they provided a Cocoa or generic C++ SDK, I'd dive in.

David Munch · Post by **David Munch** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:57 am

The_Tick wrote:Right, but we could probably pick up on what they are doing based on what they have provided.

gaim will probably get it in the next couple of months, dont you think?

Post by **bgannin** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:55 pm

David Munch wrote:gaim will probably get it in the next couple of months, dont you think?

Seems rather wishful as they are in the middle of their big status rewrite and continuing to improve file transfer (most likely).

Besides, the library/SDK needs to flexible enough to work on all platforms, which it isn't (Windows only), and appropriately licensed to be amenable to open-source projects.

MacCuajo · Post by **MacCuajo** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:43 pm

I got and idea to implement audio (and also video ) on Adium , ohPhone X , its an opensource project that allows video conferencing with net meeting and it could be modified to send /receive video and audio for the IM protocols (Y! , MSN , AIM) (http://xmeeting.sf.net)

Post by **evands** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 3:13 pm

David Munch wrote:
The_Tick wrote:Right, but we could probably pick up on what they are doing based on what they have provided.
gaim will probably get it in the next couple of months, dont you think?

I would put a good amount of money on this not happening in the next couple of months... unless you know someone who is willing to write and maintain the plugin (none of the current developers are going to take on such a mammoth task).

Post by **bgannin** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:08 pm

MacCuajo wrote:I got and idea to implement audio (and also video ) on Adium , ohPhone X , its an opensource project that allows video conferencing with net meeting and it could be modified to send /receive video and audio for the IM protocols (Y! , MSN , AIM) (http://xmeeting.sf.net)

A neat project... although this stood out to me from the current client that supports it "PC-to-Phone (not yet available to Mac OS X users)" The other key is what kind of interface they provide (be it framework, library, or glop of code to deal with)

MacCuajo · Post by **MacCuajo** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:18 pm

i dont know if the CVS would help , (included in the download)

Post by **bgannin** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:22 pm

MacCuajo wrote:i dont know if the CVS would help , (included in the download)

Not be evil, but there's not likely to be any movement any time soon on this. It's a branch of a majorly requested feature that would likely confuse a bunch of users and require a lot of extra hacking that I don't think anybody has the time to spare for. It's not to say it isn't interesting, could lead to something someday, but definitely not any time soon unless I'm wrong.

Post by **The_Tick** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 5:34 pm

evands wrote:
David Munch wrote:
The_Tick wrote:Right, but we could probably pick up on what they are doing based on what they have provided.
gaim will probably get it in the next couple of months, dont you think?
I would put a good amount of money on this not happening in the next couple of months... unless you know someone who is willing to write and maintain the plugin (none of the current developers are going to take on such a mammoth task).

Aye, agreed. But skype seems to have the best file transfer for a "im" client that I've ever seen. Either way, I think I need some waffles.

Arenzera · Post by **Arenzera** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:11 am

Doesn't Skype make use of spyware and unwanted things?

Kiel :-(

Tipo 61 · Post by **Tipo 61** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:36 am

Arenzera wrote:Doesn't Skype make use of spyware and unwanted things?

Kiel :-(

uuh, it says on their site that they don't have spyware, adware, and a few others. But I don't know too much about Skype, I havent been using it too long, there is probably some people out there with more user experience that can tell you

MacCuajo · Post by **MacCuajo** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 1:46 am

Tipo 61 wrote:
Arenzera wrote:Doesn't Skype make use of spyware and unwanted things?

Kiel :-(

uuh, it says on their site that they don't have spyware, adware, and a few others. But I don't know too much about Skype, I havent been using it too long, there is probably some people out there with more user experience that can tell you

well , im and experencied user of skype , and its true , there is no spyware, adware .. etc (acording to my antivirus) , skype package only contains the app

, Skype Rulez !!

BlueRevolution · Post by **BlueRevolution** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 1:48 am

also, sites that flatly deny using such things often do, since it usually means that they've been accused of it before, with or without grounds.