What is the PPC "translate" process?

arnoz · Post by **arnoz** » Wed May 31, 2006 9:52 am

Ethion wrote:Why can't it just be rosettta, being in the background.
As, it will start processing if a PPC binary is activated?

I am just curious then, why sometimes it isn't started at all.

mipadi · Post by **mipadi** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:21 pm

arnoz wrote:Well, for me you're talking japanese right now But anyway, thanks a lot for all your help! Will continue to read this thread.

If you want to know more about lsof and fs_usage, fire up your Terminal application (in /Applications/Utilities) and type man lsof or man fs_usage.

For most Unix commands, you can type man unixcommand in the Terminal to get more info.

yelly · Post by **yelly** » Wed May 31, 2006 1:08 pm

Ethion wrote:Why can't it just be rosettta, being in the background.
As, it will start processing if a PPC binary is activated?

i really doubt it's Rosseta, considering the fact that rosseata would have to be universal...

arnoz · Post by **arnoz** » Wed May 31, 2006 1:28 pm

That, i don't know. But sure it's strange because right now, again, it's not started... I really can't find what is making it start!

yelly · Post by **yelly** » Wed May 31, 2006 2:20 pm

i don't know if this has been suggested yet, but you should try turning off all of your startup items, restarting, and seeing if it still pops up. if not, just launch all the apps one by one, and see when it appears.

Macskeeball · Post by **Macskeeball** » Wed May 31, 2006 3:34 pm

To temporarily turn off login items, hold down shift while you login to OS X.

Post by **bgannin** » Wed May 31, 2006 3:41 pm

yelly wrote:
Ethion wrote:Why can't it just be rosettta, being in the background.
As, it will start processing if a PPC binary is activated?
i really doubt it's Rosseta, considering the fact that rosseata would have to be universal...

Actually (and I hate to be a nitpicker) Rosetta wouldn't be Universal - it would be Intel only. Having a PPC translator on a PPC architecture would be weird at best

yelly · Post by **yelly** » Wed May 31, 2006 3:50 pm

bgannin wrote:
yelly wrote:
Ethion wrote:Why can't it just be rosettta, being in the background.
As, it will start processing if a PPC binary is activated?
i really doubt it's Rosseta, considering the fact that rosseata would have to be universal...
Actually (and I hate to be a nitpicker) Rosetta wouldn't be Universal - it would be Intel only. Having a PPC translator on a PPC architecture would be weird at best

good point.
what i was trying to say is that it definitely not PPC.

Travis · Post by **Travis** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:00 pm

OK, Adium definetly does cause the Translate process. I logged in holding down Shift, opened Activity Monitor – no Translate process. Then, before doing anything else, I launced Adium (1.0 SVN). The Translate process appeared in Activity Monitor right when Adium launched.

Post by **Catfish_Man** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:06 pm

Travis wrote:OK, Adium definetly does cause the Translate process. I logged in holding down Shift, opened Activity Monitor – no Translate process. Then, before doing anything else, I launced Adium (1.0 SVN). The Translate process appeared in Activity Monitor right when Adium launched.

Two things to check:

Get info on it in activity monitor and see what files it has open, and
Get FSEventer from versiontracker and see what files are touched while Adium opens.

Travis · Post by **Travis** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:11 pm

Catfish_Man wrote:Two things to check:

Get info on it in activity monitor and see what files it has open, and
Get FSEventer from versiontracker and see what files are touched while Adium opens.

Wow, the first tip helped. It looks like Adium does cause Translate, but only because Adium launches Growl (for me, and many others), which then causes Translate.
Here's a copy + paste from Inspect on Translate, and Open Files and Ports:

Code: Select all

/
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Support/mdimport
/System/Library/CoreServices/CharacterSets/CFUnicodeData-B.mapping
/System/Library/CoreServices/CharacterSets/CFCharacterSetBitmaps.bitmap
/System/Library/CoreServices/CharacterSets/CFUniCharPropertyDatabase.data
/Users/julian/Library/PreferencePanes/Growl.prefPane/Contents/Resources/GrowlHelperApp.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight/GrowlImporter.mdimporter/Contents/MacOS/GrowlImporter
/Library/Caches/com.apple.LaunchServices-014501.csstore
/usr/share/icu/icudt32b.dat
/usr/lib/dyld
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
/System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreText.framework/Versions/A/CoreText
/System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ATS.framework/Versions/A/ATS
/System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/CoreGraphics
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation
/usr/lib/libicucore.A.dylib
/usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib
/usr/lib/libstdc++.6.0.4.dylib
/usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib
/usr/lib/libauto.dylib
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OSServices.framework/Versions/A/OSServices
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Metadata
/System/Library/Frameworks/Security.framework/Versions/A/Security
/System/Library/Frameworks/DiskArbitration.framework/Versions/A/DiskArbitration
/System/Library/Frameworks/SystemConfiguration.framework/Versions/A/SystemConfiguration
/System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ColorSync.framework/Versions/A/ColorSync
/System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIServices.framework/Versions/A/HIServices
/System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Versions/A/LaunchServices
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DesktopServicesPriv.framework/Versions/A/DesktopServicesPriv
/System/Library/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation
/usr/lib/libxml2.2.dylib
/usr/libexec/oah/translate
/dev/null
/dev/null
count=0, state=0x2
/tmp/com.apple.csseed.97
apple.shm.notification_center
/Library/Spotlight
/System/Library/Spotlight
/Users/julian/Library/Preferences/.DS_Store
count=0, state=0x2
/Users/julian/Library/Safari/.DS_Store

If this doesn't solve it (although it looks like this pretty much confirms that it's coming from Growl), I'll do the FSEventer thing.

One more thing: when I go to System Preferences --> Growl --> Stop Growl, Translate continues to run.

Post by **evands** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:44 pm

It's the Spotlight importer, which is not a universal binary.

Post by **evands** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:46 pm

Download http://evands.penguinmilitia.net/GrowlI ... porter.zip
Replace with its contents the version in this location:
/Users/julian/Library/PreferencePanes/Growl.prefPane/Contents/Resources/GrowlHelperApp.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight/

(You can get there quickly via Go->Go to Folder in Finder).

Travis · Post by **Travis** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:20 am

evands wrote:Download http://evands.penguinmilitia.net/GrowlI ... porter.zip
Replace with its contents the version in this location:
/Users/julian/Library/PreferencePanes/Growl.prefPane/Contents/Resources/GrowlHelperApp.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight/

(You can get there quickly via Go->Go to Folder in Finder).

Beautiful. Works great.

Post by **The_Tick** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:42 am

The only reason I haven't released another Growl update to resolve this is that it isn't really a big issue. Thoughts?

Post by **evands** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:45 am

The_Tick wrote:The only reason I haven't released another Growl update to resolve this is that it isn't really a big issue. Thoughts?

My feeling is that given that the release project is nearly automatic (it's the Growl scripts which were modified for Adium, right?), this plus one other bug fix would justify a minor release since (1) it's been quite a while since the last one and (2) it's still probably a while for Growl Y.X, where Y.X is whatever that next big release is named.

Travis · Post by **Travis** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:47 am

The_Tick wrote:The only reason I haven't released another Growl update to resolve this is that it isn't really a big issue. Thoughts?

I'd say release an update. Most of the people who use Growl are fairly technical, right? So they won't be bugged or confused by an update, because it'll take them 2 seconds to install. (Not that with Growl's update system there's anything confusing, but people are confused by anything.)
And, these people who are fairly technical will be annoyed by having this PPC Translate process running on their machines.

I'd say release an update, but it's not a big deal.

m2e · Post by **m2e** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:56 am

i think release an update, but make it clear it doesn't do terribly much and is not a neccesary update

Post by **The_Tick** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:35 am

evands wrote:
The_Tick wrote:The only reason I haven't released another Growl update to resolve this is that it isn't really a big issue. Thoughts?
My feeling is that given that the release project is nearly automatic (it's the Growl scripts which were modified for Adium, right?), this plus one other bug fix would justify a minor release since (1) it's been quite a while since the last one and (2) it's still probably a while for Growl Y.X, where Y.X is whatever that next big release is named.

Can you think of another fix to add? I was thinking of making GrowlTunes not search Amazon for Null if there is a Null artist and Null everything else. The image it pulls up is disturbing, heh.

Something small, but ya, I think I agree

Post by **bgannin** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:32 am

The preference pane bundle version is incorrect. I've got 0.74 on my MBP and the pref. pane states 0.7.3 instead (even though contents are correctly versioned)