AIM just doesn't work.

John Don · Post by **John Don** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:55 pm

evands wrote:The only 'conflict' I can think of will be with logs -- 0.89.1 can't read the logs that 1.0 has been writing out (but 1.0 can read 0.89.1's of course, so new logs made there will be fine)

So if I just stay away from the log viewer during this *downgrade* I will be fine?

MacMom · Post by **MacMom** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:58 pm

I had the same concern as John Don's and decided to quit Adium and back up my logs, just in case. (I learned my lesson from the scrambled logs I have leftover from one of the earlier betas.

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As I understand it, Evan, you are saying that any new logs created by 0.89.1 now will still be readable when I go back to 1.0, right? That would be a good thing.

Speaking of logs, I have noticed that 1.0 seems to create logs for people I haven't spoken to that day - even if I just open a chat window and close it again right away. I don't remember previous versions doing that. But that is probably a discussion for another thread...

Post by **Catfish_Man** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:12 pm

MacMom wrote: Speaking of logs, I have noticed that 1.0 seems to create logs for people I haven't spoken to that day - even if I just open a chat window and close it again right away. I don't remember previous versions doing that. But that is probably a discussion for another thread...

cbarrett has that fixed in his local tree, iirc. It'll be going in with the new message history code.

twistmac · Post by **twistmac** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:22 pm

We'll I've been able to stay connected for over 3 hours today without a single problem, that's with over 1,000 people on my one account.

Post by **evands** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:24 pm

MacMom wrote:As I understand it, Evan, you are saying that any new logs created by 0.89.1 now will still be readable when I go back to 1.0, right? That would be a good thing.

Precisely, and logs which 0.89.1 can't read won't be changed by 0.89.1, they'll just sit there awaiting your return to 1.0

MacMom · Post by **MacMom** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:24 pm

Catfish_Man wrote:
MacMom wrote: Speaking of logs, I have noticed that 1.0 seems to create logs for people I haven't spoken to that day - even if I just open a chat window and close it again right away. I don't remember previous versions doing that. But that is probably a discussion for another thread...
cbarrett has that fixed in his local tree, iirc. It'll be going in with the new message history code.

Thanks for the info, Catfish_Man.

twistmac wrote:We'll I've been able to stay connected for over 3 hours today without a single problem, that's with over 1,000 people on my one account.

Lucky you.

twistmac · Post by **twistmac** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:29 pm

We'll it's not working now. I'm gonna stop talking, as soon as I do I end up signing off.

John Don · Post by **John Don** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:31 pm

evands wrote:
MacMom wrote:As I understand it, Evan, you are saying that any new logs created by 0.89.1 now will still be readable when I go back to 1.0, right? That would be a good thing.
Precisely, and logs which 0.89.1 can't read won't be changed by 0.89.1, they'll just sit there awaiting your return to 1.0

Sounds good to me! I'll make the downgrade after I get off work tonight, and post my results here when I do.

MacMom · Post by **MacMom** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:36 pm

I didn't exactly downgrade, mind you. I just launched Adium from the desktop, cause I was afraid of screwing up things in the 1.0b, after reading some posts here about how peoples's logs and stuff were messed up when they upgraded and went back.

But I guess it's moot, as all the data goes in the same files.

Ders · Post by **Ders** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:45 pm

Now my .Mac account (score of 1214) works, but my aim account (21980) does not.

waffffffle · Post by **waffffffle** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:49 pm

I tried taking a number of contacts off my buddy list but that didn't seem to help. Is there anything that i can do to get it working in the 1.0 betas? Version .89.1 isn't working for me, none of my AIM accounts seem to show up and I'd prefer not to screw up my logs.

Is there any sort of hack or dev build that I could try just to alleviate this temporarily, until an official fix is released?

JCS · Post by **JCS** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:01 pm

Gah, iChat is killing me! Any ETA on a fix?

(0.89.1 doesn't work for me either. AIM fight score of 7K or so, IIRC.)

John Don · Post by **John Don** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:13 pm

waffffffle wrote:Is there any sort of hack or dev build that I could try just to alleviate this temporarily, until an official fix is released?

That's the million-dollar question.

MacMom wrote:But I guess it's moot, as all the data goes in the same files.

Yup, moot I'd imagine, hehe.

JCS wrote:Gah, iChat is killing me! Any ETA on a fix?

(0.89.1 doesn't work for me either. AIM fight score of 7K or so, IIRC.)

You think iChat is bad, try going back to the official AIM client. Horrible I tell you! Makes me wonder how I ever put up with it back in the day!

MacMom · Post by **MacMom** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:24 pm

John Don wrote: You think iChat is bad, try going back to the official AIM client. Horrible I tell you! Makes me wonder how I ever put up with it back in the day!

ITA.

That's why I am using 0.89.1 in the interim.

Post by **Crypt** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:31 pm

was working fine for about 4+ hours on 1.0b8 but now it came back :-/

andgarden · Post by **andgarden** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:10 am

Back to the stable version for the duration.

DhruvK · Post by **DhruvK** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:13 am

Back to .89.1...I'm going to miss having my contact list slide off-screen when I'm not using it

John Don · Post by **John Don** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:01 am

Reverting back to 0.89.1 seems to have fixed the problem for me. Now I just hope everything is the way I left it when I go back to 1.0,

twistmac · Post by **twistmac** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:06 pm

Since it's still not working (for me at least, probably more people) I was just curious as to what the devs plan to do about it. I heard it was Joscar related. Would that mean you'd have to abandon that? Or maybe AOL will just let it work. Anyway I was just wondering.

mipadi · Post by **mipadi** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:15 pm

twistmac wrote:Since it's still not working (for me at least, probably more people) I was just curious as to what the devs plan to do about it. I heard it was Joscar related. Would that mean you'd have to abandon that? Or maybe AOL will just let it work. Anyway I was just wondering.

It's my understanding that it's only Joscar-related in the sense that Joscar does something related to rate-limiting differently than libgaim, which results in the disconnects. It's not really AOL "forbidding" Joscar (if I understand correctly, AOL doesn't allow any unsanctioned clients).