Adium is great, but....

pedromperez80 · Post by **pedromperez80** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:02 pm

Hello,

I believe that Adium right now is the best IM client for the mac out there, however it lacks of OS X feeling or most commonly known Aqua.
Adium most take the step to make an interface that complies with mac OS X. Gush out there has a great interface, but lacks of perfomance.

I'am a great supporter of the Adium project, and I hope it keeps becoming even better.

TheSilverFox06 · Post by **TheSilverFox06** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:10 pm

Um... what? How does Adium not have an Aqua interface? All of the windows are Aqua, except the contact list, which can look like whatever the heck you want (including Aqua).

An interface that complies with Mac OS X? It's written in Cocoa, and developed in XCode, so I'm not sure how much more compliant you want it to get.

unfortunate · Post by **unfortunate** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:22 pm

yeh i have to agree... adium is cocoa..

maybe you're missing the feel of ichat? you can make adium look like whatever you want it to look like.

Bosk · Post by **Bosk** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:28 pm

ichat == teh ugly

xpander · Post by **xpander** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:34 pm

how can you compare the interface of Gush (which is written in Flash or Director or something) to Adium in it's Cocoa/Aqua glory?

tedger · Post by **tedger** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:02 pm

ummm pedromperez80 you're going to have to be a bit more specific, but one of the reasons that most people use Adium is because of it's excellent GUI that can be customized quite a bit.

air__devil · Post by **air__devil** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:55 pm

xpander wrote:how can you compare the interface of Gush (which is written in Flash or Director or something) to Adium in it's Cocoa/Aqua glory?

Sorry to tangent, but what's Gush?

Perez · Post by **Perez** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:10 pm

I'm guessing http://www.2entwine.com/ is what they mean.

Post by **bgannin** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:14 pm

As stated, Gush is horribly non-standard, has no platform-specific/endemic UI, uses a windows-in-window interface (not allowed by Apple's own HIG).

Adium has an Aqua interface IF YOU SO CONFIGURE IT. Adium doesn't have an Aqua interface IF YOU SO CONFIGURE IT.

Post by **Catfish_Man** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:53 pm

He has a point that Adium uses a lot of custom widgets. I do wonder if he has any suggestions for ways of using native ones that wouldn't look terrible.

Post by **bgannin** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:57 pm

Catfish_Man wrote:He has a point that Adium uses a lot of custom widgets. I do wonder if he has any suggestions for ways of using native ones that wouldn't look terrible.

Many apps have custom widgets with non-standard interfaces. Apple Loops are a great example of a custom, non-standard UI that is much like Adium (transparent, non-Aqua, no real 'obvious' solutions)

Post by **The_Tick** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:11 pm

pedromperez80 wrote:Hello,

I believe that Adium right now is the best IM client for the mac out there

Thanks.

pedromperez80 wrote: however it lacks of OS X feeling or most commonly known Aqua.

How?

pedromperez80 wrote: Adium most take the step to make an interface that complies with mac OS X.

Got some suggestions? Mockups are welcome.

pedromperez80 wrote: Gush out there has a great interface, but lacks of perfomance.

Gush is a proof of concept more than anything else. I'd rather you compare to other Aqua applications than a flash one, if you must compare.

pedromperez80 wrote: I'am a great supporter of the Adium project, and I hope it keeps becoming even better.

Glad to hear it.

On a side note, guys let him answer, set down the hateraid.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:09 pm

i actually wanted to say something about this, but refrained because its not all that important.. (im totally gunna get tiger pounced on this one)

i think what people miss most about a messenger when the switch to adium is a buddy list window.. alike to ichat.

now ok ok ok ok... right, we all hate ichat.. i dislike it too.. but the buddy list window is something that is missed by some. so what im suggesting is redoing the regular window theme for a contact list.. so that it is more familiar to those who want something like that.

not sure if this has been mentioned the past, i dont know how hard this would be to implement, just a suggestion

TheSilverFox06 · Post by **TheSilverFox06** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:04 pm

*Tiger pounces SuperJeremy*

air__devil · Post by **air__devil** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:18 pm

TheSilverFox06 wrote:*Tiger pounces SuperJeremy*

Grr....
<3

Post by **evands** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:19 pm

SuperJeremy3000 wrote:i think what people miss most about a messenger when the switch to adium is a buddy list window.. alike to ichat.

Besides the metal/aqua difference, the built-in iAdium contact list layout is identical to iChat's, isn't it?

Post by **bgannin** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:31 pm

evands wrote:Besides the metal/aqua difference, the built-in iAdium contact list layout is identical to iChat's, isn't it?

Which sums up the reason these debates are getting a bit silly.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:40 pm

evands wrote:
SuperJeremy3000 wrote:i think what people miss most about a messenger when the switch to adium is a buddy list window.. alike to ichat.
Besides the metal/aqua difference, the built-in iAdium contact list layout is identical to iChat's, isn't it?

it is, but its also missing buttons that are readily available in a standard window theme, like "add contact, message, send file...". (IMHO) the toolbar that is available in the regular window theme makes the contact window look a bit obtuse

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Edit: i would not be upset if you guys did not change your mind about this

and if the discussion were to be closed on the topic, i wouldn't fight it, just thought of this so i said something

laxstar · Post by **laxstar** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:42 pm

man u guys beat me to it

see they are almost identical (or they can be):

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:47 pm

laxstar wrote:man u guys beat me to it

see they are almost identical (or they can be):
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that is a highly effective post laxstar, i drop my argument

i could never get my buddy list to look like that

honestly!!

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